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rooster59uk  
#1 Posted : 25 February 2022 08:42:44(UTC)
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rooster59uk

An employee has slipped on ice in the works yard 45 minutes before he was due in work to start his shift. Shift starts at 7.30am, we have a man who arrives at 7am to lay salt in the winter prior to other arrivals but the IP arrived before the salt was laid. My questions are, if the IP takes time off work because of this accident, is it a recordable accident and does it need to be registered in the first aid book. If the IP takes time off over 7 days, is the accident RIDDOR reportable? 

Edited by user 25 February 2022 08:43:46(UTC)  | Reason: spelling mistake

HSSnail  
#2 Posted : 25 February 2022 08:55:31(UTC)
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HSSnail

Dont you just love a Friday RIDDOR?

Worplace regs require you to take reasonable (practicable) precaution to keep traffic routes (which include paths) free from snow and ice. The person was using the footpath to access their workplace. For me there is a clear "work activity" link so i would say yes it has the potential to be RIDDOR, if they are unable to undertake normal duties for 7 days. Have you done anything wronge or could you have done more? Probably not - RIDDOR was never meant to be about blame - but thats the way it seems to be viewed today.

Edited by user 25 February 2022 08:56:25(UTC)  | Reason: spotted one spelling misake - probbably missed others

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rooster59uk  
#3 Posted : 25 February 2022 09:22:35(UTC)
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Thank you Brian, I believe we do take steps to prevent this. We lay salt on ice or snow 30 minutes before work is due to begin. But I take your point, maybe there should be a locked gate to prevent early access.

A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 25 February 2022 09:33:39(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I think what Brian was trying to say was 1) yes, it is a RIDDOR as the accident was due to the way  the yard was being managed but 2) this is not an actual admission of liability is just an accident caused by someone turning up unexpectedly.

If you do report it the HSE or local enforcement won’t be particularly interested  and if the injured party put in a claim they will need to demonstrate that the business could have done something reasonably practical   to prevent the injury. The RIDDOR is not evidence of liability (there I have said it twice now!)

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#5 Posted : 25 February 2022 09:38:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rooster59uk Go to Quoted Post

Thank you Brian, I believe we do take steps to prevent this. We lay salt on ice or snow 30 minutes before work is due to begin. But I take your point, maybe there should be a locked gate to prevent early access.

Sorry rooster i think you may have misunderstood me - i agree i think you are taking re3asonably practicable precautions and when i was an inspector i would have read a RIDDOR about this and done nothing more. As to locking gates - i would need more information about your overall security assessment to know if that was a good idea.

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