The fact that the HSE no longer have a link to the register "front & centre" of their landing page speaks volumes.

It was all about who could be bothered to pay to be listed believing the sales pitch of the time - others sat back to see how things would unfold and saved themselves a pretty penny.

As you don't legally need qualification or membership to work in H&S why would potential clients bother finding out if a register exists, let alone engage someone from the listing.

Hi Scusack

Well we know what Mr Grayling's nickname is!!

It's not just health and safety. Consultants from whatever discipline know that sometime clients set unreasonable hoops fot prospective suppliers to jump through.

When OSHCR was founded the company I worked for made the decision that clients might include OSHCR as a hoop (whether or not sensibly) so we took our corporate membership and a number of individual memberships.

Perhaps OSHCR is more suited to the smaller clients but in terms of our plans, we got a single enquiry in the first 3 or 4 years of OSHCR's existence and for that particular client it was not a particularly sensible hoop to set in terms of what they were looking to buy. 

HSE has always been fairly ambivalent for very good reason. Competence depends on what is needed at any time and the specific needs of the client. 

What is seen as a "health and safety" issue may often need expertise from somebody other than a typical health and safety professional OR input from other disciplines.

So, if the wall at the rear of our terrace is looking distressed and might fall down killing a refuse collector or child I can see that it doesn't look right but am not competent to judge on the probability that it will collapse - so that's something for a structural engineer and not just any structural engineer but one whose experience extends beyond things built to modern Eurocodes. May be there is a role for an OSHCR member (or someone similar) on advising on the niceties of the legalities.

There might be some place for OSHCR in terms of providing a list of people who can provide a range of advice, training etc on typical H&S issues, predominantly for the small clients who are less capable of understanding their procurement needs.

However, I don't see much change in OSHCR's visibility in the market place since IOSH took over its secretariat.

P

I've just seen the following announcement: 

Richard Orton, who is a Director and member of the senior leadership team at the Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (IOSH), will be taking over as Managing Director at Certsure from January 2022. Speaking before his official joining date of January 10, 2022, Orton, commented, “I am delighted to be joining Certsure at such an exciting time. I look forward to immersing myself in the building services sector and meeting with customers, colleagues and stakeholders so I can learn more about the opportunities and challenges that the industry faces.

I think that explains why IOSH has done absolutely nothing with OSHCR.

Hi Sean - possibly Ruth Lake's replacement on the IOSH Senior Leadership Team, Ruth Lake, might be more interested. Companies House says that she was appointed to the OSHCR Board in January 2022.

P