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afergusson12  
#1 Posted : 04 May 2022 11:56:18(UTC)
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afergusson12

Is it permitted to use CCTV that shows an accident occurring for remedial safety training? 

No significant injury sustained, just bruising, but the incident had a potential  to be very serious. 

I would like to use this video to try and influence behaviours in the workplace and to re-enforce safety rules already in place. 

A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 04 May 2022 13:10:32(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I’d ask the “victims” permission. Under the various data protection laws (including GDPR)  if you are collecting personal data such as video recordings you need to declare why you are collecting and this keeping this information. It is unlikely  that “to provide training materials” is included in the list reason for the data. If they agree then you can but they might require that the data be anonymised, which might be difficult if it is being shown to work colleagues, who might be aware of the location and recognise the victim, even if their face is pixelated.

On the other hand, if the incident is as potentially serious as you say the victim might be willing to deliver their side of the story, which is usually a much more powerful teaching tool than just some funny video.

 

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afergusson12 on 05/05/2022(UTC)
peter gotch  
#3 Posted : 04 May 2022 13:33:19(UTC)
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peter gotch

I'm with AK on this. Better to find one of the speakers who talks about their own experience face to face or in a video such as "Kate's Story".

No issues of data protection to get concerned about.

P

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A Kurdziel on 06/05/2022(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 04 May 2022 14:25:00(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Cameras can be deployed wherever there is a legitimate business, as long as their use is proportionate, necessary, and addresses a pressing need that cannot be addressed by other means.

DPA and GDPR outline a number of obligations regarding the use of CCTV footage, including:

- is secured from theft and accessible only by designated personnel - is securely deleted after it is no longer needed

Use for "training" would mean:

- making footage accessible to others

- retaining it beyond what was reasonable under the assessment for installation

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Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 04 May 2022 14:25:00(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Cameras can be deployed wherever there is a legitimate business, as long as their use is proportionate, necessary, and addresses a pressing need that cannot be addressed by other means.

DPA and GDPR outline a number of obligations regarding the use of CCTV footage, including:

- is secured from theft and accessible only by designated personnel - is securely deleted after it is no longer needed

Use for "training" would mean:

- making footage accessible to others

- retaining it beyond what was reasonable under the assessment for installation

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afergusson12  
#6 Posted : 05 May 2022 14:17:44(UTC)
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afergusson12

Thank you for the responses.

The incident certainly had the potential to be significant, very happily it was not. The suggestion to get the IP to train out his action is a really good and one I will investigate with them.

peter gotch  
#7 Posted : 06 May 2022 10:29:59(UTC)
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peter gotch

AF - I would be wary of asking a victim to train out their experience in their own workplace. Might easily add to the trauma they may have experienced and still be experiencing.

My comment referred to people who have made THEIR own decisions to act as advocates after their accidents [or in the case of e.g. Kate's Story someone close to them, for Kate her late partner]. So THEY have decided when the time is right for THEM.

The other problem is that all too often the victim is likely to have sustained injury due to some unsafe BEHAVIOUR (aka ACT) by them or somebody working alongside. They may not be the best person to make a considered analysis of the underlying unsafe CONDITION, nor the best person to share the lessons learnt as in a way that is reasonably dispassionate.

...and if there is one or more of those unsafe CONDITIONS, fixing those is likely to much more effective than focusing on any unsafe BEHAVIOUR.

This is because the unsafe CONDITION is likely to be a precursor of entirely different scenarios that could result in accidents or occupational ill health. In traditional safety philosophy this is the "domino theory".- fix the left hand dominoes, then the right hand dominoes are less relevant.

P

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afergusson12 on 09/05/2022(UTC)
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