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craigroberts76  
#1 Posted : 07 June 2022 13:04:41(UTC)
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craigroberts76

I've been asked what kind of training should a fire watcher during hotworks have. It was suggested a fire warden training, but I think this is a little overkill and isnt really task related (they tend to focus on evacuation procedures). I've searched for an answer but cant really find what is deemed as a "suitable and adaquet" competence course. What do you do for fire watchers?

Messey  
#2 Posted : 07 June 2022 14:41:56(UTC)
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Messey

We have an in house course, which as you say is different than Warden training. However, it is more involved than warden training as we do not expect Wardens to see or deal with a fire - just assist in evacuation The Fire Watching Course is low on scientific or technical detail. Instead it is  laden with case studies to keep candidates awake.

Its is ALWAYS delivered by a competent person (or otherwise would not be compliant with the Fire Safety Order) in a laid back style which encourages partcipation from those attending as to their experiences. This is where a competent person is essential to be able to go 'off script'

The inputs is as follows:

Why bother with watchers? (CASE STUDY - fire on a construction site - hot works)

Legal (liability, duties and responsibilities - differences between employer and employee) 

Triangle of fire. - Basic stuff

Methods of fire spread (convection, conduction, radiation, direct burning)

Speed of fire spread (practical factors which influence fire growth)

CASE STUDY - Fire in historic structure during works - with video and lessons learned section

Compartmentation 

Fire alarm systems (how they are distend and what they aim to achieve - avoiding unwanted signals) 

CASE STUDY - Hot works related fire in NHS premises

Safe systems ( permits, RAMS, removal or covering combustibles, ventilation, emergency plan, cover over breaks and calling 999)

Description of portable fire extinguishers (Water, foam, co2 , DP and blankets)

Safe methodology in use of extinguishers and dynamic risk assessment 

Practical session (cold, no fire or simulated fire)

Summary and test  (very easy test to ensure students have paid some attention)

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craigroberts76 on 07/06/2022(UTC)
craigroberts76  
#3 Posted : 07 June 2022 15:01:59(UTC)
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craigroberts76

fantastic thanks, thats similar to what i had in my head as required, and sepecific details over our permit to works and how the 2 work together as we are classed as high risk work.

peter gotch  
#4 Posted : 08 June 2022 12:09:00(UTC)
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peter gotch

Both - the Forums at their best!

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Messey on 08/06/2022(UTC)
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