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AVELICAN  
#1 Posted : 09 November 2022 14:33:02(UTC)
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AVELICAN

Hi all,

I'm looking for some different perspectives on one of my concerns about Racking Safety.

During 2022, I performed some racking inspections because I noticed the racking - several beams are damaged and workers/supervisors have not reported any near misses attributable to racking damage.

By doing this inspection 3 in total, I had the ability to repair the rack in time to avoid any injury or damage to the plant or equipment.

We have a risk assessment in place for FLT operation, which is reviewed when this NM occurs and shared with all relevant workers, but it appears that employees are ignoring this RA and have adopted unsafe practices.

I've noticed that some employees, including the warehouse supervisor, do not follow the procedure for operating and FLT correctly - they keep the forks BACK TILTED when picking pallets from the shelf, which, in my opinion, is the main reason why they are damaging the beams.

All operators are trained for FLT/CB and also a refresher program is in place every 3 years.

My question is, would you consider taking disciplinary action against employees who do not follow the proper procedure for picking and storing pallets? To help you understand the dangers of those pallets, consider that one pallet can weigh up to 710 KG and can be stored 3/4 metre above ground.

Even though we have this type of procedure and scheme bonus that could be affected by unsafe work methods, senior management in my organisation does not like the idea of "disciplinary actions."

How would you proceed in this case?, I'm curious to see how other health and safety advisers would see this problem.

Thank you

HSSnail  
#2 Posted : 09 November 2022 14:57:26(UTC)
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HSSnail

Originally Posted by: AVELICAN Go to Quoted Post

My question is, would you consider taking disciplinary action against employees who do not follow the proper procedure for picking and storing pallets?

Not as a 1st course of action - need to carry oiut an incident investigation 1st and understand the underlying and root causes. I think you may have already seen one - bonus scheme so people are rushing.

Do people need retraining? is the layout correct.? etc

Ultimatly if everything esle checks out than may have to use disiplinery procedure

PDarlow  
#3 Posted : 09 November 2022 15:17:21(UTC)
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PDarlow

In my experience, what you describe is no different to many other places and I attribute what you say to the overall safety culture of the place. As Brian rightly pointed out, you should certainly investigate to try and identify what the root cause might be. You have a duty to speak out and to engage with the supervisor who is setting a bad example and try and find out the underlying causes as to why he chooses not to operate a FLT correctly and also why he doesn't monitor his teams use of FLTs, or why there is no challenge.

It is no doubt a challenging situation and you may well be met with the usual dismissive excuses. If you get nowhere with the operators or their supervisor / manager, then you must highlight it to the powers that be and have that recorded. Remind them of their duty of care and ask how they would rectify the situation. If you are still met with resistance from the Directors in reagrd to any improvements and a reluctance to affect positive change then you may want to cover your backside and seek an employer who does understand their accountability and responsibility in these matters.

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AVELICAN on 09/11/2022(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 09 November 2022 16:26:13(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: AVELICAN Go to Quoted Post
I've noticed that some employees, including the warehouse supervisor, do not follow the procedure for operating and FLT correctly - they keep the forks BACK TILTED when picking pallets from the shelf, which, in my opinion, is the main reason why they are damaging the beams.

Interesting as we discipline drivers who travel with horizontal / forward dipping forks whilst carrying a load.

Back tilt ensures the load cannot slide off in the event of sudden braking.

I would say your real issue is probably insufficient space having been allowed between the beams - if the pallet plus load is 1.2m tall sat on the ground you need an allowance over this between the beams to permit back tilt.

When designing our racking we took a standard pallet, ran the FLT to full back tilt, lowered the forks so the pallet edge was just touching the ground then measured the opposite (highest) side and added a tolerance.

Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 09 November 2022 16:26:13(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: AVELICAN Go to Quoted Post
I've noticed that some employees, including the warehouse supervisor, do not follow the procedure for operating and FLT correctly - they keep the forks BACK TILTED when picking pallets from the shelf, which, in my opinion, is the main reason why they are damaging the beams.

Interesting as we discipline drivers who travel with horizontal / forward dipping forks whilst carrying a load.

Back tilt ensures the load cannot slide off in the event of sudden braking.

I would say your real issue is probably insufficient space having been allowed between the beams - if the pallet plus load is 1.2m tall sat on the ground you need an allowance over this between the beams to permit back tilt.

When designing our racking we took a standard pallet, ran the FLT to full back tilt, lowered the forks so the pallet edge was just touching the ground then measured the opposite (highest) side and added a tolerance.

AVELICAN  
#6 Posted : 09 November 2022 16:51:34(UTC)
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AVELICAN

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: AVELICAN Go to Quoted Post
I've noticed that some employees, including the warehouse supervisor, do not follow the procedure for operating and FLT correctly - they keep the forks BACK TILTED when picking pallets from the shelf, which, in my opinion, is the main reason why they are damaging the beams.

Interesting as we discipline drivers who travel with horizontal / forward dipping forks whilst carrying a load.

Back tilt ensures the load cannot slide off in the event of sudden braking.

I would say your real issue is probably insufficient space having been allowed between the beams - if the pallet plus load is 1.2m tall sat on the ground you need an allowance over this between the beams to permit back tilt.

When designing our racking we took a standard pallet, ran the FLT to full back tilt, lowered the forks so the pallet edge was just touching the ground then measured the opposite (highest) side and added a tolerance.


The racking system was designed by a well-known supplier into the racking system, and they took the size and weight of our goods into account prior installation. The racking system is under 4 years old.

I used to be part of the warehouse team, and I know from experience that when the forks are back tilted, the back beam from the higher shelf is more likely to be damaged.

I was considering asking management to reconsider rearranging the racking system, moving the beams 5 cm higher, but I'm not sure if this is feasible given that the system can store 3000 pallets.

The issue is that not only were beams damaged in the process, but also posts and bracing; I observed corners of pallets being stored beneath the low level bracing.

In addition, I will arrange for a SEMA Inspector to inspect our racking system; I believe he will be able to provide us with additional options for our problem, but I'm afraid this type of near-miss will never go away if they continue to use unsafe working methods.

Regarding the work voulme, there isn't a lot of work to make them rush; everything can be done in a reasonable amount of time, as I know from my experience in the warehouse.

As I've only been in the H&S industry for a little over a year and have only obtained the NEBOSH General Certificate and my experience is not that wide as others, I don't want to rush and have disciplinary action taken against them, as we all know how difficult those days are with the rise in inflation.

Thanks

Edited by user 09 November 2022 16:57:09(UTC)  | Reason: .

Kate  
#7 Posted : 09 November 2022 19:46:58(UTC)
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Kate

I suggest having a read of the HSE publication HSG48.  You'll find it on their website and it is all about human failure and how to prevent and handle it.

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AVELICAN on 10/11/2022(UTC)
Pirellipete  
#8 Posted : 10 November 2022 08:34:51(UTC)
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Pirellipete

Toolbox talk with management present (to demonstrate leadership and commitment) etc

Team meeting with management present (as above)

meeting with supervisors to remind them of company procedures on reporting

Rebrief and re-signing of RAMS by all involved the operation - to help refocus and help them to remember that they've signed their understanding of RAMS and reporting procedures

1-2-1's

Then you're into the the verbal/written route IMO

Andy14  
#9 Posted : 17 November 2022 11:31:05(UTC)
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Andy14

I was always taught and instructed learners (many moons ago) so practice may have changed, that the only hydraulic operation carried out in racking was lifting and lowering.  The levelling off was carried out at travelling height prior to placing or moving away from the rack.  This reduces any potential to make contact with beams or shelving.

You can buy mast level indicators to assist operators.  SEMA also have guidelines on minimum clearance distances between pallets and racking beams and vertical uprights. 

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