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cmarshall1983@outlook.com  
#1 Posted : 18 November 2022 09:50:28(UTC)
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cmarshall1983@outlook.com

Morning All,

I have recently joined a new business who have delivered most training in house, FLT B1 & B2 / IPAF 3A /3B training. 

My previous company would out source all training to an external company (I have my IPAF licence). Question from me is internal training acceptable? 

Thanks. 

HSSnail  
#2 Posted : 18 November 2022 12:50:10(UTC)
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HSSnail

Originally Posted by: cmarshall1983@outlook.com Go to Quoted Post

My previous company would out source all training to an external company (I have my IPAF licence). Question from me is internal training acceptable? 

It might be - there is no law that says training must be done by an external company, but training does have to be done by a compitant person. Compitant means someone with relevant knowledge, experiance etc - and thats not just about the subject matter but also in training.

If you happy that you can fulfill all those requirements then great - most companies employe external trainers who are members of a certain body as it gives them a level of confidence that if something goes wrong they can show why they consider the trainer compitent - almost like an insurance policy.

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cmarshall1983@outlook.com on 29/11/2022(UTC)
peter gotch  
#3 Posted : 19 November 2022 11:52:28(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Cmarshall

Nowhere in the law does it say that e.g. fork lift training and training in the use of mobile elevating working platforms needs to be any specifications, on indeed to any industry standard such as IPAF.

When I worked for HSE some of the larger factories had their in-house FLT trainers (IPAF hadn't been invented, and MEWPs were a novelty!).

But if you want that degree of comfort there are recognised qualifications for fork truck trainers from RTITB amongst others and one can do IPAF train the trainer training.

In my experience this is usually outsourced, probably for business reasons:

Either there is not enough demand to have an in house trainer (+ the need to make sure they remain up to speed) or an organisation has multiple locations and it is cheaper to send the trainee to a local outsourced provider than to move in house trainer to the trainees or vice versa.

But, if you have sufficient demand why not do the training in house?

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cmarshall1983@outlook.com on 29/11/2022(UTC)
Kate  
#4 Posted : 20 November 2022 16:14:47(UTC)
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Kate

IPAF training is by definition accredited by IPAF - so you would need IPAF accreditation to claim to provide IPAF training in-house or otherwise.

On the other hand there is nothing to stop you delivering training in the same subject that isn't IPAF training but covers the same ground, provided you have the competence to do so.

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cmarshall1983@outlook.com on 29/11/2022(UTC)
Pirellipete  
#5 Posted : 21 November 2022 09:01:01(UTC)
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Pirellipete

We use a training provider who does two options,  Accredited and Non-Accredited,

They are both to the same syllabus and standards, the Accredited is twice the price cos the trainer has to pay the accreditation body and charge for accredited certs/ID cards,

Non-Accredited the trainer issues their 'in house' cert, stating the training is to industry standards.

For the trainees, they may have some difficulty getting the Non-Accredited training recognised on some sites, but our company tends to go for that option, one reason being it's more difficult for employees to jump ship with their training and skills. 

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Kate on 21/11/2022(UTC), peter gotch on 21/11/2022(UTC), cmarshall1983@outlook.com on 29/11/2022(UTC)
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