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Collins1985  
#1 Posted : 09 December 2022 12:23:54(UTC)
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Collins1985

What does everyone think about a forklift being marked as ok for use with a defective windscreen wiper?

The advice given to the forklift operators was to not use it in the rain. 

A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 09 December 2022 12:32:38(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Is this a permanent  "solution" to the faulty wiper or is it a stop gap until it is fixed? 

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 09 December 2022 12:41:59(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Defective wiper or defective motor?

No one can be so remote a replacement wiper blade cannot be sourced in a short period of time - most supermarkets now stocking such items along with various motor factors.

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Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 09 December 2022 12:41:59(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Defective wiper or defective motor?

No one can be so remote a replacement wiper blade cannot be sourced in a short period of time - most supermarkets now stocking such items along with various motor factors.

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John Elder  
#5 Posted : 09 December 2022 12:42:58(UTC)
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John Elder

They are aware of the hazard and identified the reasonably forseeable risk. (Hitting someting due to restricted visibality in wet weather)

If they are prepared and can work like that safely and see out ok when it is not raining then the control measure is suitable and sufficent as well as reasonably practicable.

Personally though myself I would get it fixed if only to show commitment to my emplyees safety and welfare, and not let them use it in the rain until completed provided they can see ok at all other times.

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A Kurdziel  
#6 Posted : 09 December 2022 16:39:28(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Wiper blades are of course available online at a moderate prize with next day delivery for a small extra charge. So why the stop gap measure? Are they a broke or just mean?

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peter gotch on 09/12/2022(UTC)
grim72  
#7 Posted : 12 December 2022 14:44:57(UTC)
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grim72

Probably not enough info to say for sure to be fair.

If they are wanting to use the FLT for a day while they wait for a replacement wiper to come in (and if the weather is clear and it doesnt hinder vision) then why not?

If they intend to carry on using it for the forseeable future in all weathers and visibility is significantly imparied as a result then I'd say no?

As is often the case, it would come down to a risk assesment - the good news is that it has been reported - now it is up to management to put it right and advise the driver of progress/decisions.

antbruce001  
#8 Posted : 15 December 2022 09:43:03(UTC)
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antbruce001

All,

Using it (or having it available for use) is a breach of PUWER Regulation 5 - Maintenace; Should be maintained in safe working order.

As it is a safety feature, it must be maintained regardless even if it is not required based on the risk assessment. As it is fitted the requirement to maintain the device is absolute. 

I've seen (and enforced) the need to repair reverse lights on an FLT. This was despite the required specifications for that particular FLT did not require them (not intended to be driven on a public highway). I wouldn't have enforced the need to have them installed - but as they were, they had to be maintained in working order.

The only alternative is to 'try' and justify their removal using RA. But this will be almost impossible. To do this you need to justify that leaving the wipers on (when they are working) actually increases the risk overall. They can't be removed just because there is no perceived benefit or because you don't want to maintain them.

Hope it helps,

Tony.

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