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NickConstable  
#1 Posted : 07 March 2023 15:20:42(UTC)
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NickConstable

Hi all. I am looking for recommendations for a company or business off shoot to give safety culture training to a global audience. I work for a UK subsidary and we are looking to change to a safety culture from a sales culture on a global scale. My 1st stop was DuPont having under gone there training before and thought that it was what I needed, only to learn that the training side was sold off years ago! So any suggestions are welcomed.

peter gotch  
#2 Posted : 08 March 2023 12:28:10(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Nick

Devil's Advocate - "what do you actually mean by a 'safety culture'?"

Do you mean being able to put a pretty graph into the Sustainability (other) Report showing a general downwards trend in Lost TIme Injury Frequency Rate using the guidance in Global Reporting Initiative GRI 403?

If so, you probably need some variant of a Zero Harm policy and a Behavioral Safety campaign.

However, this could easily result in you largely ignoring the "low probability, high consequence" risk scenarios.

....and as you never count them, the long latency occupational health risks and environmental risks.

AND I assume that you DO intend to ignore those health and environmental risks as the words HEALTH and ENVIRONMENT would not be explicitly mentioned in your "SAFETY" culture.

I invite you to go online and find the 2017 Sustainability Report for Vale, a multinational based in Brazil.

It contains a pretty graph showing the downward trend in LTIFR.

In the FINANCIAL section of the report it mentions Fundao - the impact was mostly to the environment, as only 18 were killed.

It couldn't possibly have predicted what would later happen at Brumadinho, where the impact was mostly to people - nearly 300 dead.

There are plenty of other documented examples where focus on acute injuries occurring in ones or twos has diverted attention from perhaps much more serious risks.

One company who made lots of money from selling its Behavioural Safety model went a bit quiet after 4 people died in the same confined space.

NickConstable  
#3 Posted : 08 March 2023 12:38:26(UTC)
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NickConstable

Peter many thanks for your reply.

The business currently has a sales culture across it with small pockets of safety culture first and we in the global HSE team are trying to start the change into that of a safety 1st culture. I know from past expericnce that the UK quarrying industry has gone through a simliar change industry wide. This involved OTTO and Visable Felt Leadership. Once we have the change started the aim is to roll it out across the globe and also into home live in a way the Du Pont achieved in the 80's and 90's.

The reason for the post was I am looking for suggestions or recommendation of someone or organisation who can help us with the early stages, which is probably the Behavioral safety.  Does that make things clearer

Kate  
#4 Posted : 08 March 2023 17:24:27(UTC)
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Kate

I don't have an answer either way, but it may be useful to distinguish between whether you mean

"I want training for everyone to get them to be more focused on safety"

or

"I want training for a few in how to transform the safety culture in my organisation"

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A Kurdziel on 10/03/2023(UTC)
A Kurdziel  
#5 Posted : 10 March 2023 12:33:35(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Behavioural Safety has a bad rep on this forum, with many people  seeing it simply as a way for big organisations to move responsibility for safety from the board room down to the shopfloor, with an emphasis on preventing lost time accidents. As Peter says this tends to ignore the  low probability, high consequence events which fall mainly to management.

Kate is right that you really need to make it clear who your audience is meant to be: the shopfloor or the boardroom. Culture is set by the top through their actions and  general approach.  

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SteveForrest on 10/03/2023(UTC)
bradaz1  
#6 Posted : 10 March 2023 15:19:48(UTC)
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bradaz1

Try Safetycoaching.com

I am not affiliated with them, but I do know the director who is a fab trainer and very knowledgeable in this area.

NickConstable  
#7 Posted : 10 March 2023 16:31:55(UTC)
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NickConstable

Thanks bradaz all help is welcomed and appreicated.

arnoldisnumerouno  
#8 Posted : 16 March 2023 23:57:18(UTC)
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arnoldisnumerouno

Not training as such but if I could get anyone to give a talk to my company it would be Eddie Woods at Karrdale. Search for him on YouTube. He has presented at a few IOSH meetings I’ve attended and he has been excellent
Pirellipete  
#9 Posted : 17 March 2023 09:49:19(UTC)
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Pirellipete

IMO,  any Behavioural Safety training or Safety Culture training or similar, absolutely definately needs to include senior management and should be the same message so it's a moot point as to who the target audience is to align the trianing.

If the CEO thinks that just by signing the cheque for any such training that's all he needs to do, then he really, really needs to attend the training,

I do agree that training such as IOSH working or managing safely, SMSTS and SSSTS etc can be targetted to the appropriate personnel and roles, but behaviourial and culture type stuff needs to be 'Across, and including, The Board'

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Kate on 17/03/2023(UTC), MikeKelly on 17/03/2023(UTC)
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