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Good afternoon all. My company will later this year be getting a new machine installed along with a seperate machine provided by another seperate company. Both companies will be individually responsible for CE marking their own machines. However, my understanding is that the interface between these two seperate machines will also need CE marking and/or a declaration of conformity. I am struggling to find a company that can do this (as we don't have the expertise here to do this ourselves). Is there any companies out there that others can recommend we approach regarding this? Many thanks.
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Bump. I got in contact with a couple of companies so far and what I am being told is that they will guide us through the process, but they won't CE mark it; they want us to essentially become the manufacturer and bare overall responsibility. What they will do is things like write a intergration risk assessment, compile a technical file, draft a declaration of intergration etc (which I think they are referring to a declaration of incorporation, or is that something different?).
That is not what my business is after. We want someone to take ownership of the entire process and CE mark for us. I am told there are companies that will do this, but even though I asked [a company that I was speaking to that explained the above] they wouldn't tell me because they are "competitors".
So, does anyone know of a company that I can contact that can provide this specific service? Thanks.
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Morning Svick. Reading your comment you are essentially buying two pieces of machinery that you will be incorporating together to make a machinery assembly. Both machines will be CE (UKCA) marked and provided with a decleration of conformity as they are machines in their own right. Is that correct? Although the guidance says the whole line "should" have CE/UKCA marking, in practical terms, that is rarely the case. What you do need is a comprehensive PUWER risk assessement that ensures that all the safety requirements are met and you haven't introduced any additional risks. The whole world of Machinery, the machinery directive, the Supply of Machinery Regs etc is murky and CE/UKCA marking in my experience is relatively unregulated in so far as thet're marking your own homework. I can just about guarantee that your machinery wont comply with BS EN ISO 13857:2019, but the manufacturer will stick a little sticker on saying dont put your fingers here and claim it meets the EHSR of the Machinery Directive. I would recommend getting in touch with Finch Consulting and look at engaging them for guidance and support.
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Originally Posted by: Coyle07  Morning Svick. Reading your comment you are essentially buying two pieces of machinery that you will be incorporating together to make a machinery assembly. Both machines will be CE (UKCA) marked and provided with a decleration of conformity as they are machines in their own right. Is that correct? Although the guidance says the whole line "should" have CE/UKCA marking, in practical terms, that is rarely the case. What you do need is a comprehensive PUWER risk assessement that ensures that all the safety requirements are met and you haven't introduced any additional risks. The whole world of Machinery, the machinery directive, the Supply of Machinery Regs etc is murky and CE/UKCA marking in my experience is relatively unregulated in so far as thet're marking your own homework. I can just about guarantee that your machinery wont comply with BS EN ISO 13857:2019, but the manufacturer will stick a little sticker on saying dont put your fingers here and claim it meets the EHSR of the Machinery Directive. I would recommend getting in touch with Finch Consulting and look at engaging them for guidance and support.
Morning Coyole. Yes, you are correct; they will both be CE marked and have their own DoC in their own right; we just want assurances that the line itself is safe and it is marked up as such (so there can be no grey area but also a company has taken on that responsibility so should an accident happen, we won't be in a battle between which party is ultimately responsible). I will make contact with Finch Consulting; many thanks for your help.
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