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irshadahmed1988  
#1 Posted : 30 January 2024 03:39:48(UTC)
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irshadahmed1988

What is the difference between HSE plan and HSE proceudre? The guidance is required.

Kate  
#2 Posted : 30 January 2024 07:18:07(UTC)
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Kate

Each can mean different things in different contexts.

What is the context in which you require this guidance?

For example, has someone asked you to write such things, and if so why do they want them?

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irshadahmed1988 on 13/02/2024(UTC)
firesafety101  
#3 Posted : 30 January 2024 11:10:52(UTC)
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firesafety101

Part of a Plan could be to Write a Procedure.

The Procedure sets out what to do and how to do it.

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irshadahmed1988 on 13/02/2024(UTC)
peter gotch  
#4 Posted : 30 January 2024 15:00:52(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Irshad, as Kate says these words mean different things to different people.

So, as an example my former employer has lots of SOPs - Standard Operating Procedures that could entirely integrate the management of health and safety into how work is done, but the SOPs don't generally do that.

Then each project would have a project HSE Plan - the broad rules as to who does what on the project and some overarching Rules.

Then each task would have RAMS - risk assessment and method statement and then a Take 5 - what is in effect a dynamic point of work risk assessment aka POWRA.

But if a project involves a constuction site, then in the UK (and Ireland) it would need a Construction Phase Plan (specific legislative requirement but not necessarily to be called the CPP) which many might call an HSE Plan.

So, it's about deciding what processes are in place at each worksite and making sure that if there are multiple organisations involved they each understand the terminology that is used - perhaps one organisation uses different terminology to another on the same project - that's OK as long as each understands the differences.

Remember that ultimately what matters is what actually happens at the front line, not how heavy the paperwork is!

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irshadahmed1988 on 13/02/2024(UTC)
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