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#1 Posted : 18 October 2002 12:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By PatrickT Are Designated Incident Control Officers, Fire Marshalls and the like (the Employers representative) responsible / accountable for the Health Safety and Welfare of staff, enroute to a designated evacuation point? Does the route, to the designated Evacuation (Muster)point, have to be included as part of the Risk Assessment process i.e safe access and egress? Are the condition of paving /lighting to be included? The route is traffic free, One Quarter of a mile from the Office Block, in a pedestrianised City Centre. Any examples of incidents relating to these questions would be most useful Regards Patrick Teyhan
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#2 Posted : 21 October 2002 18:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Graham Johnson 1. Firstly, Safety Reps do not have a duty of care. Secondly, A Fire Marshall's responsibility for evacuating people from a building ends when they have reported to the Evacuation Controller. If they have any doubt that the evacuation was complete, they should tell the Controller this, who will relay it to to the Fire Fighters on the scene. 2. When I carry out Risk Assessments, I always include Evacuation Routes. Greeme
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#3 Posted : 22 October 2002 09:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor Whilst the employer retains a duty for the health and safety of employees whilst in the course of their work there will also be duties upon those employed by the employer to undertake the work and upon those who manage, supervise, direct it, etc. So if the employer employs people to direct and accompany employees to an assembly point, they will have some measure of duty to discharge in that respect. However, this is likely to be rather 'hypothetical' in this instance as the types of loss or injury that might be encountered en route are very likely to be clearly attributable to others (road accidents, trips, assaults, etc)and any related health and safety at work enforcement action (if any at all) will be directed against the employer. Hopefully the employer will have selected an assembly point with the advice of the fire authority and this will be at a safe but reasonable distance and location avoiding, as far as reasonable, the need for crossing busy roads and other significant hazards for the numbers of persons likely to be using the route at any one time!
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