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#1 Posted : 18 September 2006 09:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Susan Drake
One of the contracts held by our company includes the home delivery of white goods.

Our customer is now asking us to arrange not only the delivery but also the installation of built in electric ovens. This would involved hard wiring in the oven - where there is an existing outlet plate.

Is anyone able to confirm what training and qualifications would be needed to ensure the competence of the person who has to do the fitting / installation
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#2 Posted : 18 September 2006 09:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
If the installation is within a domestic property then Part P might be required, but in all cases whether domestic or commercial, the task can only be carried out by a competent person qualified electrictian.
You might need that person to be qualified for testing an inspect, speak to your insurance company.
Regards
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#3 Posted : 18 September 2006 09:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy

Hi Sue,

building regs says something about only electricians or competent persons trainined to 16th edition or "part p" are allowed to install in kitchens and bathrooms. Any installer needs to be a competent person and trained (niceic, are the electrical contractors association....I think).

There are some built in ovens that just require plugging in using the attached 3 pin 240v plug. Heard differing views as to whether this is Ok, because by plugging in you are not actually altering the curcuitry? When the regs changed about 2 years ago, there were lots of electricians who wernt trained to the required standard who would just leave the plugging in bit to the customer. Similar case with plumbers installing central heating and boilers, if they werent trained to "part P" they would either get an electrician or put a plug on it.....which is also not good!!

Whatever you do, speak to your insurers who will tell you what levels of competency is required and then raise your premiums accordingly!! Hope you can pass on any costs to your customer.

Good luck
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#4 Posted : 18 September 2006 12:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
"Built in" electric ovens do these days tend to come with a 13 amp three pin plug. Usual problem for the fitter is of course that he/she has to cut the existing moulded plug off and wire on a new one to get the cable to the socket outlet!
There are more pitfalls in wiring the new plug (nicking conductors)than there are in wiring to the 30A cooker outlet!
Either way,from a business perspective, recommend this is a job for the competent electrician.
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