Posted By snt
I love reading IOSH forum, it always amuses me that qualification, salary and employment are issues at stake. Concerning this thread, I would like to break it down for analysis. First, remove the word manager from the title, you have Health and Safety. The manager at the end signifies added responsibility to be able to manage which involves among other things human, resources, finance, environment, business and stakeholders. In addition highly analytical skills. Usually employers look for management skills in form of recognised qualification or trainings, most degree holders would most likely scale through as they would have transferable skills in this regard.
The H&S issues are highly specialised areas combining science, maths, physics, law, chemistry, ergonomics, psychology etc. From education perspective, these areas cannot be covered in 2 weeks typical of NEBOCH General certificate. NEBOSH gives the foundation of H&S to enable Directors, Managers and Foremen to be conversant with H&S issues for effective safe working. It is a requirement that these people are trained towards NEBOSH. Now tell me, if the MD is required to have training in this area, and it takes 2 weeks for completion, what value would it give to it?
Other ranting is about competence on this forum. The fact that one has NGC does not confer competence on the holder. Though the law does not specify criteria for competency. However, IOSH defines competency as
The law says that people who “assist” in managing health
and safety risks need to be competent, although it doesn’t
set out what ‘competence’ actually means and how you
can achieve it. We believe that being competent means
you must have:
> relevant experience, knowledge, skills and qualifications
> the ability to apply these in the right way, while
recognising the limits of your competence
> training and other professional development activities
to maintain your competence."
http://www.iosh.co.uk/fi...ncygoodpracticeguide.pdfSo we are all competent but we are not all consultant. To be a consultant "you should be either a:
* Chartered Fellow (CFIOSH) or
* Chartered Member (CMIOSH)
http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...?go=consultancy.registerIt therefore, follows that as an employer, going by the standard set by IOSH, I would prefer CFIOSH or CMIOSH.
Most organisation employs H&S advisor to oversee these area of the job to enable the Director and Quality Manager to concentrate on other aspect of the business.
So salary wise for a H&S manager with added responsibilities and qualification to back it up will command £50+.
For comparison of H&S qualification most especially NGC, with Chartered Quality Institute. See the level of knowledge require and length of time to be certified.
http://www.thecqi.org/membership/e0-1.shtml/CQI adverts and salary
http://www.thecqi.org/jobs/