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#1 Posted : 04 September 2008 14:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Cook After 3 months out of work the local fire service has given me an interview as there is a position in there safety team. My background is in manufacturing but i made sure that my application showed that i am a willing learner and able to adapt. Does any of you who work in the emergency services have any interview advice?? or any advice from anyone for that matter. The interview consists of being given a topic on arrival and then giving a ten minute presentation on that topic followed by an interview based on the presentation. Any advice or guidance is greatly appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 05 September 2008 09:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC I would guess that the topic will be fire related. If this is the case and it's about presenting something to the public for example - keep it simple in order that 'Joe public' will grasp and enjoy it. If it is a more in depth topic aimed at Fire and/or H&S professionals then obviously more technical knowledge will be in order. Balance it to the target audience and be yourself. In these jobs the pay is not great, but the rewards are. Good Luck!
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#3 Posted : 05 September 2008 11:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel *dealing with the public *work at heigh for the fire service when tacking certain work areas is different for the FS than others * violence towards the FS when attending fires etc Are some things to think of Stick to the logical basics as against getting to conmplicated and understand what the role is before attending the interview as a generalist is not expected to be a fire expert & VV Best of luck
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#4 Posted : 05 September 2008 12:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Catherine Ince Please don't assume that the topic will be fire-related. It wasn't when I was interviewed for my current position. They may be looking for you to have an idea of the issues faced by fire services, as well as deomnstrating that you have an awareness of wider H&S issues - sorry if this states the obvious, but I would hate for you to be blinkered in your approach to the interview. The best of luck! Catherine.
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#5 Posted : 05 September 2008 14:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tanka-Ray First of all, well done on getting an interview. The basics: - If they have support materials for the presentation USE THEM. It will probably be a whiteboard or flipchart; they won’t expect you to be Steve Ballmer but will expect you to vary your format if you can. - Check their website thoroughly for details of recent activities and have a run through Google for any local news or major incidents they have recently attended. - Remember you will not just be looking after firefighters, there will be a lot of support staff too so demonstrate how you can adapt your skills to different working environments. Even the operational staff have a huge remit – shift work, driving, community events, traffic accidents, inspections etc as well as things like cooking and cleaning. - Don’t use the word ‘Brigade’. - Brush up on your Equalities and Diversity knowledge – not all Services are the same but it’s certainly a hot topic in many at the moment. - Enjoy the interview and feel free to email me if you need anything. Good luck
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#6 Posted : 05 September 2008 14:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal Congratulations on your interview. I had an interview with the Fire Service some time ago. My task was to deliver a presentation on something like the 'Recipe for Health and Safety'. This was followed by the interview proper with the personnel officer and a high ranking fire officer. Part of the role was to look after the safety of Trading Standards Officers for some reason. The role was advertised with a salary band (I can't recall what now. Anyway, after them telling me how important it was to get the right calibre of candidate in post and stressing this many times I asked them what salary they were offering at which point they told me the lower end of the band. The interview effectively stopped at that point. Best of luck.
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#7 Posted : 10 September 2008 16:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By AMelrose Firstly Congratulations on getting an interview! Agree with others about not focusing on fire (though no doubt it will come up at some point in the conversation!!). Most jobs offered with a salary band / range will expect the candidate offered the position to start at the bottom of that band and gradually work their way up. If you really believe you are worth more than what they offer initially, then argue your reasons for a higher salary point; "my last salary was X and I'm unwilling to take a cut in salary as I have financial commitments" if it was higher for example. Or if you have any additional experience / qualifications then you could add "I have a masters in X and am able to provide your organisation with XXX, which other candidates you may interview probably won't have..." - worth a shot. Working alongside HR, it's unlikely someone will be offered the highest point on the salary scale without you arguing why you deserve it!
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#8 Posted : 10 September 2008 23:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Jerman Try to get hold of a copy of Dynamic Management of Risk at Operational Incidents ISBN 0 11 341221 5 It's a very good insight into modern fire service thinking about, well, basically not rushing straight in. They have a set of 3 escalating core-values about what is tolerable, remembering that they go into situations that a 'regular' employer would not be allowed to. Quite handy to know how to use those. Having worked extensively with both Fire and Police services, it can be tricky to get them to see the balance between what they do 'out there' and safety in say, the appliance room, or kitchen etc. They can tend to confuse 'health and safety' with public safety. So we used to talk about Operational Safety and Personal Safety. Try telling a bomb disposal officer to mind the slippery floor! Best of luck. Chris
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#9 Posted : 11 September 2008 07:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By RP Look at the Association of Chief Fire Officers website. Stick with the basics, Policy, Planning, Arrangements, Monitoring, Review, etc. Do not mention fire poles...!!
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#10 Posted : 11 September 2008 11:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim T The Fire Service is obsessed at present with Equal Opportunities and understanding Ethnic Diversity. Also they are keen to involve themselves in the community more i.e. schools visits, information stalls in local shopping centres, installing smoke alarms for vulnerable members of the community etc etc. I doubt that they will ask you much about fire! Good luck Jim
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#11 Posted : 15 September 2008 13:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Cook Thank you so much for your feedback. I'm happy with the pay scale and really want the job as i feel i could do some really good work in a positive environment. Dynamic Management of Risk at Operational Incidents ISBN 0 11 341221 5 - could i get this from my local library??
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#12 Posted : 16 September 2008 08:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Jerman Phil sorry Mate, I have no idea. Last time I was in a library I was in short trousers. I got mine from the Fire Service when working for them. Can't scan it for you either as that would be naughty and we'd all have to go and see the Head. Have you typed it into Gurgle? CJ
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#13 Posted : 16 September 2008 11:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Cook No worries i've managed to get hold of one at the last minute. Hopefully it will give me the edge!! Thanks again for all of your feedback help and support Cheers Phil
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#14 Posted : 18 September 2008 11:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Cook Unfortunately i didn't get the job. Onwards and upwards!!
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#15 Posted : 18 September 2008 12:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal Bad luck Philip. Keep positive and persevere and you will get there eventually. (Been there and got the T shirt!. How do you feel the interview went, were there any major issues and did you get any feedback afterwards? You may not want to share your experiences just now but if you do you might pick up some tips from colleagues here for the next time. All the best, Decimo.
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#16 Posted : 22 September 2008 16:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Cook Overall i feel the interview went well. I spent a lot fotime tailoirng my preparation to ensure i didn't waffle and to give clear and concise answers. The feedback i received was that i had come "second" and that i had lost out due to not giving enough detail in the questions regarding legislation which i felt i had given very clear and to point answers. So thats it, on to the next one whenever that maybe!!
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#17 Posted : 22 September 2008 16:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Decimomal All is not lost, the first candidate may decide not to take the job after all and you could still be in with a chance.
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#18 Posted : 26 September 2008 11:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Cook Right so i've got a second interview with Royal Mail as a territory safety manager. Any guidance is greatly appreciated. Thanks Phil
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#19 Posted : 26 September 2008 13:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tanka-Ray Sorry to hear about the first interview, always good to practice interview skills though. May I ask, how did you find out about the Royal Mail job? I would LOVE to go back to them (ex-postie) but never see any H&S vacancies. Are you a Mason or am I just not looking properly? Thanks Oh and top issues for RM will be manual handling (when I was there something scary like 92% of posties over 50 had severe back problems), driving, personal safety, language and communication issues and agency workers. Good luck!
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#20 Posted : 30 September 2008 17:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Cook Hi, Thanks for the pointers. I applied through an employment agency, i have signed up to a fair few over the 3 months. If i was a mason i very much doubt i'd be posting on this forum :)
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#21 Posted : 09 October 2008 00:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Cook Well aint that just the way. They've offered me the job on a 6 month trial - I am to say the least extremely happy (if a bit nervous) and looking forward to getting stuck in. Thanks for all your pointers and also if anyone has any advice for starting in a new management role covering a pretty large geographical area then please feel free to impart your wisdom!!
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#22 Posted : 09 October 2008 09:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell Philip, I started in a position that covered east of england... then grew into 1/2 of england and was pretty taxing on travel and stays away from home a lot of the week. You should look at your management structure and their responsibilities, then look at how you communicate and build relationships with them both individually and as a group. Attend regional meetings regularly, look at training needs for them as they will be managing their area from day to day... it is an impossible task to go to every location at the drop of a hat!
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