Posted By Andrew Kelleher Hi there I recently attended the 3 day CIEH Professional Trainers Course. This was an excellent course, providing a great framework for the effective delivery of training. The course seems to be well recognised by employers, and I managed to get the course for £140.00. If you want any further details about the provider etc, please send me an email. Regards Andy

Posted By CeeCee P Hello Tony / Andrew, Many thanks that's great advice. Yes I suspect my lack of Diploma may be a prob, but unfortunately in the current climate my employer will not help with either time away or the cost of the course. I am hoping to do as many other courses as I can each month and eventually get a loan out to do the diploma. I have to try, its all that keeps me going at the mo. CeeCee

Posted By Seejem Cee Cee P, Small steps methinks. The key course for trainers in all disciplines is the 5 day City & Guilds Preparing to Teach in the Life Long Learning Sector (PTTLS for short), this is also a good grounding for going onto to do other 'further education' type courses. This should be the bench mark for the level that I think you are aiming for. The 3 day CIEH Professional Trainer Certificate is also a good course, but not to the level of the C & G PTTLS. I would suggest you do the 3 day CIEH to give you some basic grounding in lesson plan prep, organisational skills, and trainer presentation, and communication skills, and then look at the C & G PTTLS further down the line. A lot of the professional bodies that provide packages for commercial delivery, and gain, such as CITB (their suite of Site Safety Plus courses), IOSH (Working, Managing, and Directing Safely courses), and the NEBOSH courses, all require, not only some sort of training qualification, and relevant experience but will also be looking at perhaps, a higher level of professional safety qualification to the certificate level of the course you are delivering. For instance the CITB courses requires as an absolute minimum NEBOSH Const. Cert, C & G PTTLS (as of January 2010), plus lots of 'muddy boots' experience. Maybe you may also wish to consider looking at a particular subject, such as Risk Assessment, or Manual Handling, become proficent in the delivery of your 'pet subject', then build on this experience. Lastly, in addition if you want to be a successful trainer, then all the certificates, and experience in the world won't help if you have the personality of a soapdish. So keep working on those people skills, and remember there is a huge difference in delivering courses to your own people, and going out and delivering a course to a room full of strangers. I am a registered CITB Tutor, IOSH Tutor, ECITB-CCNSG Tutor, Britsh Safety Council Tutor, and Maybo Conflict Management Tutor, and have 30 years plus of Civil Engineering, and Construction experience both as a foot soldier, and as a manager, I'm still learning and always remember that no two courses are ever the same. Happy to help further if the need arises.

Posted By CeeCee P Thank you all so much; what useful advice both on and off the board! IMHO, this is the true value of Iosh - Its members! All together now - awwwwww. For those of us new to, or thinking of joining H&S, it is absolutely awesome that advice and knowledge is shared, and that such time is taken to give such valuable and well constructed advice. You have all certainly made my day! Onwards and upwards............. Thanks a mill CeeCeeP