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#1 Posted : 15 April 2009 15:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By CeeCee P
Good day,

I am really interested in developing my career so I can deliver training full time in the future. At the moment I am working as a safety officer for a private firm (tres boring, but a job nonetheless, so yes I ‘appreciate’ it!). I hold the Nebosh general cert. I feel like I am going stir crazy in this job. The best bit is when I have to deliver training; I feel like I’m going for an Oscar each time! Sad I know; and Yes, to any cynics (as there seem to be loads on this forum), I do make sure everyone understands and learns from the sessions; it’s not just about my performance!

This is what I really want to focus on, and is a place I feel I can make a difference, however small. The only thing is, after much Internet searching, I am at a loss as to what sorts of courses / course I will need to undertake before I can be accredited as a trainer. I was thinking of taking the Nebosh fire and Construction (Diploma out of my budget at the mo). What do you think? Is this enough, or do I need specific teaching quals, and if so what are they?

I appreciate any advice; I am based in London.
Thanks a million…………

CeeCee P
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#2 Posted : 15 April 2009 15:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Kelleher
Hi there

I recently attended the 3 day CIEH Professional Trainers Course. This was an excellent course, providing a great framework for the effective delivery of training. The course seems to be well recognised by employers, and I managed to get the course for £140.00.

If you want any further details about the provider etc, please send me an email.

Regards

Andy

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#3 Posted : 15 April 2009 16:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By TonyB
Hi CeeCee

I think your problem is going to be your H&S qualifications rather than teaching qualifications. I suspect most training companies will require a NEBOSH Diploma (or equivalent) before considering you for interview. Another key aspect is experience.

Its surprising that you don't need any formal teaching training for most H&S training roles as it is not funded from the public purse. However, formal qualifications do help.

Good luck

TonyB
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#4 Posted : 15 April 2009 17:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By CeeCee P
Hello Tony / Andrew,

Many thanks that's great advice. Yes I suspect my lack of Diploma may be a prob, but unfortunately in the current climate my employer will not help with either time away or the cost of the course. I am hoping to do as many other courses as I can each month and eventually get a loan out to do the diploma. I have to try, its all that keeps me going at the mo.
CeeCee
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#5 Posted : 16 April 2009 13:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike DF
Here's an idea; contact your local adult education service. They often provide (for free) acredited trainer/tutor training for those with the subject expertise.

That is how I got my Level 4 certificate in further education teaching (oh, and lots of hard work!). They should also stump up for your IfL membership.

This qualification on your CV is a great 'foot in the door' when applying for jobs
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#6 Posted : 16 April 2009 13:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seejem
Cee Cee P,

Small steps methinks.

The key course for trainers in all disciplines is the 5 day City & Guilds Preparing to Teach in the Life Long Learning Sector (PTTLS for short), this is also a good grounding for going onto to do other 'further education' type courses. This should be the bench mark for the level that I think you are aiming for. The 3 day CIEH Professional Trainer Certificate is also a good course, but not to the level of the C & G PTTLS. I would suggest you do the 3 day CIEH to give you some basic grounding in lesson plan prep, organisational skills, and trainer presentation, and communication skills, and then look at the C & G PTTLS further down the line.

A lot of the professional bodies that provide packages for commercial delivery, and gain, such as CITB (their suite of Site Safety Plus courses), IOSH (Working, Managing, and Directing Safely courses), and the NEBOSH courses, all require, not only some sort of training qualification, and relevant experience but will also be looking at perhaps, a higher level of professional safety qualification to the certificate level of the course you are delivering. For instance the CITB courses requires as an absolute minimum NEBOSH Const. Cert, C & G PTTLS (as of January 2010), plus lots of 'muddy boots' experience.

Maybe you may also wish to consider looking at a particular subject, such as Risk Assessment, or Manual Handling, become proficent in the delivery of your 'pet subject', then build on this experience.

Lastly, in addition if you want to be a successful trainer, then all the certificates, and experience in the world won't help if you have the personality of a soapdish. So keep working on those people skills, and remember there is a huge difference in delivering courses to your own people, and going out and delivering a course to a room full of strangers.

I am a registered CITB Tutor, IOSH Tutor, ECITB-CCNSG Tutor, Britsh Safety Council Tutor, and Maybo Conflict Management Tutor, and have 30 years plus of Civil Engineering, and Construction experience both as a foot soldier, and as a manager, I'm still learning and always remember that no two courses are ever the same.


Happy to help further if the need arises.
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#7 Posted : 16 April 2009 14:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By MarcusB
If you're interested in delivering CIEH qualifications I suggest you read the last section of this document: http://www.cieh.org/libr...ions/OnlineCatalogue.pdf

This provides clear information about how you can progress to delivering the higher level courses.

As has been mentioned before, your level of qualification may still be an issue for the higher level training but at least you could make a start!
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#8 Posted : 16 April 2009 16:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By CeeCee P
Thank you all so much; what useful advice both on and off the board!

IMHO, this is the true value of Iosh - Its members! All together now - awwwwww.

For those of us new to, or thinking of joining H&S, it is absolutely awesome that advice and knowledge is shared, and that such time is taken to give such valuable and well constructed advice.

You have all certainly made my day! Onwards and upwards.............

Thanks a mill
CeeCeeP
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