Posted By Andrew Blair My office sits opposite a city centre contruction site, in Glasgow, which has been the source of much amusement to my fellow colleagues. The site is full of casual labourers who think nothing of launching debris from the building into skips on the street below (narrowly missing passing cars and pedestrians). The HSE just happened to visit the site (I wonder how that happened?) only to discover the project had not been notified , he could not discover who the Principal Contractor was and the Client was uncontactable in a foriegn country. The HSE inspector now has to spend valuable time (time he can hardly afford) on hunting down the parties involved in this project. This made me consider what could be done to prevent these projects slipping through the CDM net. Perhaps a link up to Planning Permission or Building Control applications. Does anyone have any similar experiencies or views on how these rogue clients could be prevented from starting projects with scant regards to safety legislation and to their employees? Regards, Andy Blair

Posted By Peter J Harvey We clearly have the good and the bad and I have been finding that many contractors especially small ones do not bother with either CDM or any other legislation. However I do not want to give the Construction Industry a bad name and would promote the idea of reporting offenders. One rule for one and one rule for another cannot go on forever. In fact if principle contractors and clients managed and inspected their sub-contractors on a regular basis, a great deal of these poor standards would be eliminated.

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