Posted By David Day Have you thought about having safety netting underneath, tied between the car park and a building on the opposite side of the street. Just thought this idea might cheer people up when they read it !

Posted By Ian Mycroft We have also had a few people jumping off multi-story car parks that we own or control. To make it impossible for them to jump is, well, pretty near impossible. Suicidal people are surprisingly inventive, so all you can do is try all you can to make it more difficult and hopefully they will go somewhere else. When all said and done you do all that is reasonably practicable to prevent people falling, but if someone is determined and really want to kill themselves, they wil cimb over any fence that you erect.

Posted By Ken Taylor The three interventions that I have seen in London Boroughs are: controlling public access to higher levels (eg security and one-stop services at ground level); engineering measures to windows to either prevent opening or limit it to 100mm; and projections above potential landing zones in inappropriate places - both designed-in (eg canopies) and add-on (eg nets).

Posted By Brendan Cleaver Given the tone of some of your responses and the inventiveness of these type of people. Perhaps looking on the lighter side you could always put look out overhead hazard signs and barriers around the impact areas. Even perhaps a target might help. Sorry...seriously speaking heavy duty perspex is perfect. Can't climb it. Can't break it. Graffitti washes and wipes off. Generally install to 8ft and use and overhang section to further discourage climbers trying to fix a climbing means over the top. The Perspex easily drills and bolts to concrete and armco. Good luck and look out above!!

Posted By Paula Badger I am appalled at the ideology that people attempting suicide using this method are seen as statistical, but then I might be getting the thread wrong. In studying psychology and deviance,there are MIND centres that have trained councellors to listen to those who have such tendancies. Now in seeing the human potential of such activities, it is the job of units that have large open vantage points to try and make access at certain times impossible. Therefore, there are those that come out of secure accommodation, have bankruptcy, divorce, social exclusion and plain depression that might be the cause of the attempt at self destruction. Therefore, the measures of placing canopies and using the inverted brackets seen in the Westmorland Shopping Centre stop such activity. In most MIND centres there are services to help those with the immediate onset of depressive self harm in this way. One way, would be to put up linked Samaritan phones to the pay machines or on levels of multiple car parks. Noteably, the statistical suicide rate is from urban, more than rural out of town establishments. Therefore, the design of the place may make some more depressed than others, as in poorly maintained units with dank, dark lighting. Lighting is a mood enhancer, and if playing calming music over tannoys, it may break the frustration cycle that the public as individuals have. But really, it is a local issue of saving a person's life, not a planning issue, and of that I am firmly on the side of saving those who have crisis which results in flight not fight mental images. There are neurotransmitters in the brain that force this action on visual cues. Taking away such cues could help, therefore seek the use of MIND agencies or and the use of psychologists and those who have lived and attempted to leap to death. This to me is the person centred perspective and I hope it helps to those interested in the discipline of mental imbalance on h and safety.

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Posted By Hilary Charlton Hi Joel I understand your concern about jumpers but also agree that if someone is determined to kill themselves then they will find a way, whatever measures you take or attempt to take. It may not be off the top of your building but will be instead on the local railway line, etc. I live in Eastbourne where we have the notorious jumping capital of Britain, namely Beachy Head, you might want to contact Eastbourne Borough Council Health and Safety and see what they do about it. I can't say I've seen anything except notices about the edge being dangerous and so on but they may be in a position to give you some very good advice. Hope you get yourself sorted OK. Hilary

Posted By Joel Benham Thank you all for your ideas / comments - certainly some food for thought....

Posted By Ken Taylor Not really Geoff. It's the others I'm worried about.

Posted By Gavin Gibson How about providing extra strong large plastic bin liners so the clearing up problem is simplified? (only kidding - honest)