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Posted By Ron Young
The June edition of SHP has over 30 pages of job advertisements in it. Of this plethora of adverts, many from agencies with multiple vacancies, I counted 1 Scottish based job. Now, notwithstanding the decline in Scottish industry over the past years, doesn't this appear suspicious that Scottish employers may be less willing to fulfil their H&S obligations towards employing competent people than their counterparts south of the border. Or is it just that we Scots are happier in our current jobs that we don't want to move!
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Posted By Gavin Gibson
Perhaps Scottish HSE practitioners are provided with such excellant salaries and high standards of living that none of them ever change their jobs, and hence no adverts. Alternatively all industry has achieved such a high plateau of safety standards that there is no need for such roles any longer. Or maybe they have simply found it better to hide their job location so as to ensure that practitioners are not put off by being North of Hadrian's Wall
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Posted By Alex Falconer
From experience, the general feeling is that employers do not take their responsibilities seriously.
Having been involved in H&S for over 8 years and educated to Tech SP level (plus Dip EM), previous employers have expected the H&S professional to assume full responsibility should things go wrong (in the hope this absolves them of prosecution -despite advising them to the contrary).
Trying to make cost effective H&S recommendations & improvements or funding for training (both for employee and personal development) is almost impossible.
I would have more luck in getting blood out of a stone.
Maybe its the economy currently affecting businesses in Scotland, that budgets are more of a priority for other departments, rather than for H&S.
But again, this is just my opinion!
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Posted By sylvia
Ron - how many jobs did you spot in Wales (or Ireland come to that). This month seems a bit thin for all jobs. I think it's just population, not attitude, based. London / home counties v. the rest.
I thought there had been quite a few (funny expression!) of jobs in Scotland in the last few months and at reasonable levels too.
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Posted By Andrew Blair
Ron,
It is true that there is a real void of good health and safety positions north of the border and the type of job you are looking for may not be advertised in the ususal recruitment sources (ie Herald or Scotsman newspapers).
I can only suggest you persue other sources, such as recruitment consultants (Melville Craig are particularly good) and try to get yourself involved in industry safety groups. I am involved in the Scottish Contractors Safety Group and that is a good source of information on who is looking for safety professionals. I can only assume that other industries will have similar groups.
Andrew
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Posted By peter gotch
Ron
At least two of us have recently made appointments in the Central Belt by using the IOSH chat forum.
From my experience, the Herald is a more popular place to advertise jobs here than the Practitioner.
Also lots of networking, headhunting etc.
In practice, precious few unemployed MIOSH people in this part of the world.
4 MIOSH people in this office alone, with two more imminent when they receive their level 4 NVQs and thence corporate membership.
Lots of jobs in THSP in and around London. A reflection on the real problems organisations down there have in recruitment and retention.
Peter
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Posted By Michael Miller
I remember sending for an application form for one of those Scottish jobs you mentioned just recently. I was suprised to be asked what nationality I was English or Scottish? Any wonder I never applied! This must be how they keep those positions for themselves.
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Posted By Ron Young
Peter,
I agree your comments on advertising in newspapers and your prudence by advertising on this forum. I still have the feeling that there are too few H&S jobs advertised in Scotland, even via the well known agencies. I suppose good quality jobs in Gods country are few and far between...
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