Posted By jeff Robinson
within our company we currently service our own industrial burners.
This is currently being done by a person with 10 years cexperience.
We have recently been informed that this work can now only be carried out by a CORGI registered person is this correct?

Posted By Dave Wilson
Disagree,

Where does it say that a person 'MUST' be CORGI registered to undertake this type of work?

Posted By Dave Wilson
Nice one Jay!

Posted By Gerry Marchant
To get the definitive answer, why not contact CORGI. they'll put you on the right track!

Posted By Jay Joshi
My last para stated that to demonstrate competence, it is advisable to do the " relevant" units.

There is a Code of Practice from HSC "Standards of training in safe gas installation" COP 20 first published in 1987.

For a factory, it should be adequate for maintenance personnel to be trained etc by successfully by covering the relavant units in this COP ,thereby demonstaring competence but not to through the entire process of "CORGI" resgistration.

Posted By Jay Joshi
Regulation 2 of The Gas Safety (Installation and Use) regulations 1998 is about "General interpretation and application"

Regulation 2(4) states: -

Save for regulations 37, 38 and 41 and subject to regulation 3(8), these Regulations shall not apply in relation to the supply of gas to, or anything done in respect of a gas fitting at, the following premises, that is to say -

(a) a mine or quarry within the meaning of the Mines and Quarries Act 1954 or any place deemed to form part of a mine or quarry for the purposes of that Act;

(b) a factory within the meaning of the Factories Act 1961 or any place to which any provisions of the said Act apply by virtue of sections 123 to 126 of that Act;

(c) agricultural premises, being agricultural land, including land being or forming part of a market garden, and any building thereon which is used in connection with agricultural operations;

(d) temporary installations used in connection with any construction work within the meaning assigned to that phrase by regulation 2(1) of the Construction (Design and Management) Regulations 1994[5];

(e) premises used for the testing of gas fittings; or

(f) premises used for the treatment of sewage,

but they shall apply in relation to such premises or part thereof used for domestic or residential purposes or as sleeping accommodation.

For clarification you can contact the
HSE Gas Safety Policy Section--details of various contacts can be accessed at:-
http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/contacts.htm

The HSE website for Gas Safety Information is:-
http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/index.htm
In all likelihood, they will inform you that for factories, the regs do not apply as per regulation 2(4), but the maintenance personnel have to be competent--so its a question of "demonstrating that competence.

There is a Nationally Accredited
Certification Scheme (ACS) for Individual Gas Fitting Operatives.

You may note that now, gas safety "training" has been separated from the "assessments".

There is a multitude of "assessment schemes" for gas safety competence, the majority of them concentrating on domestic/commercial indirect & directly fired systems. To what extent these are relevant to your industrial system, only you can determine after dialogue with the assessment organisation.
It is likely that there will be some units that form the "fundamentals" and then the relevant "industrial application one" that your service personnel can be assessed etc against.


However, whether you want to proceed (or even if it is possible to meet their critera for CORGI registration-since you actually are not an installation business) is your choice. My understanding is that it is not a statutory requirement for premises stated by regulation 2(4) as none of the regulations except regulations 37, 38 and 41 apply!

Posted By Keith Archer.
HSE Prosecutions area:

Summary: Gas Safety (Installation & use) Regulations 1998. Plumber installed gas central heating boiler and was not CORGI registered. 28/11/2001 Fine £1500 plus costs of £1293.85