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Admin		#1 Posted : 23 June 2004 22:23:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Karen Todd Hello all, I recently heard someone making a speech and they talked about the 4 C's when referring to people's attitudes to health and safety. I can't quite remember what was said. I think there were the Criminals, who have no intention of complying with the law. Then came the Clueless, who were well meaning but hadn't a clue. Then came the Contenders. Does anyone know what I am on about and can fill in the missing bits? Thanks, Karen
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Admin		#2 Posted : 24 June 2004 06:23:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Mork My money would be on: - Consultation - Communication - Competence - Co-operation. See page 6 of the following for more. http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg275.pdf
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Admin		#3 Posted : 24 June 2004 06:24:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Mork or perhaps not.
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Admin		#4 Posted : 24 June 2004 07:55:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Jack and, of course 'control'
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Admin		#5 Posted : 24 June 2004 08:07:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By james mackie TLA's (three letter abbreviations) always mean something to someone. Just make sure when you are using them you and the person you are having a conversation with have the same understanding. For example: BA= british airways or breathing apparatus or batchelor of arts
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Admin		#6 Posted : 24 June 2004 08:30:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Karen Todd I think it was maybe: Criminals, Clueless, Compliant and Contenders. Not sure about the contenders one though. Karen
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Admin		#7 Posted : 24 June 2004 09:21:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Mork Thanks Jack, you're right, 4th C should have been - Control. TLA means Three Letter Acronyms to me. Proves your point James.
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Admin		#8 Posted : 24 June 2004 09:49:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Rod Douglas I used to teach "Bomb Scene Management" at The MoD Police Training School in Wethersfield in Essex and used the 4 C's in this way... CONFIRM CLEAR CORDON CONTROL It does have Health & Safety implications!!!!!! Aye, Rod D
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Admin		#9 Posted : 24 June 2004 11:41:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Kieran Duignan Karen At the highest level, 'Champions' is sometimes used.
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Admin		#10 Posted : 24 June 2004 13:31:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Terry Smyth Karen It's possible the forth "C" may be Complacent.
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Admin		#11 Posted : 24 June 2004 13:45:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By james mackie Mork I'll set them up, you knock them down. The old ones are still the best Jim
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Admin		#12 Posted : 24 June 2004 16:12:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By brian mills I am sure that I read somewhere the HSE was getting together with the CBI and the TUC to ban the use of TLA’s, and then they were going to look at why abbreviation is such a long word? regards B
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Admin		#13 Posted : 24 June 2004 20:16:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Mork Brian Until then there's always http://www.hse.gov.uk/acronym/a.htm
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