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#1 Posted : 11 October 2005 08:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin R. Bessant This posting has been removed from the Chat Forum as it breaches the Acceptable Use Guidelines. Contributors are reminded that this is a professional forum, and comments about individuals are not permitted. Martin Bessant - Lead Moderator.
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#2 Posted : 11 October 2005 09:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan Your safeguarding of the IOSH good name is wise and timely.
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#3 Posted : 11 October 2005 10:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob T Hi Martin, Unfortunately I didn't see any messages after my last posting so I'm not quite sure why this has been removed. As some people know I occasionally support Jeremy with some (I repeat some) of his comments and as such I am, to quote Katherine Tate, "not bovvered" about comments directed at me, so if there were some negative comments about me please don't worry on my behalf. I would however like to say, as someone who worked in the media for 8 years, when you set yourself up on TV or the press, on a controversial stance, you expect to be a target for negative responses and actually thrive on some of them. I am absolutely sure that, within reason, Jeremy wouldn't give a stuff about comments directed at him. In our profession, Jeremy has set himself up as the anti-christ and as such should be a subject of some lively debate. If some of the comments went way over the top then surely just those should be removed. With respect for your decision to remove the link, but with those provisos above, Regards Rob Todd
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#4 Posted : 11 October 2005 11:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Terry Reading Rob It would appear my jokey comment to you about you're so serious reply to a light hearted comment was objected to, even though you took it in the leg pulling way it was meant. So I apologise to all. Guess those that take things too seriously win again. I always thought that this proffession was full of people who give themselves their own bad rep for not knowing when to 'lighten up dude'.
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#5 Posted : 11 October 2005 11:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan With respect, Terry, you're looking in the wrong direction, dear friend. It's not members of what you call 'this proffession was full of people who give themselves their own bad rep' who could land the IOSH in litigation but others who talk with forked tongue. Having worked for several years in the loosely-controlled 'PR' environments similar to this website, I've some painrul experience of the time-wasting unproductive wrangling that folk who wish the profession no good are apt to enjoy. That's why in this instance, I support the censorship which I would often object to as much as you do.
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#6 Posted : 12 October 2005 10:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Haynes "Jeremy has set himself up as the anti-christ " You must be joking! He pokes fun at those things [including us] that he feels deserve it. I've just read his book 'The World According to Clarkson', which is a collection of his Sunday Times column. The first Chapter deals with H&S - it is hilarious, not because it belittles the H&S profession, but rather it highlights the stupidity of those people who apply 'the rules' without any thought as to whether they are sensible. There are lots of 'bonkers conkers type references in it. I found it the best chapter of the book, and so agreed with the final sentence of the chapter [I leave you to find out what he said] People like JC serve a very useful purpose in our profession - they sometimes drag us back to the real world. They do occassionaly 'go over the top' - but don't we all? As my daughter keeps telling me "Take a chill pill"
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#7 Posted : 12 October 2005 12:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Talbot No good Alan, I checked and I don't have JC's book to hand ... put me out of my misery and quote the sentence you refer to (with full credits so you don't breach copyright *grin*) Overall, I think we as a country need people like him to smile with and to wind us up.
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#8 Posted : 12 October 2005 13:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Fred Pratley Jeremy who?
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#9 Posted : 12 October 2005 18:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman I don't think I saw the original thread. But this is one of the few that made me giggle. I still want JC (NB : not Jesus Christ) to be guest speaker at the next IOSH conference. If he does agree to come then I will attend (never have done before) AND I will wear my conker button-hole. Merv Actually, I think I agree with Rob T. If you stand up in public, as most of us do from time to time, if only "in a training situation" you invite, in fact you NEED reactions, positive or negative, from the people you are speaking to. A shtum audience is no good to anyone. JC is most definitely on OUR side of the fence. Great bloke.
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