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#1 Posted : 26 October 2006 15:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By B Hello All, My company is revising its archiving policy and I have been asked how long we need to keep Portable Appliance Testing Reports for? I've had a look, but can't seem to find anything which give me the answer. Is there a definitive answer and, if not, what would people recommend? (n.b. we test everything annually) Thanks in advance B
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#2 Posted : 26 October 2006 15:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Robb we kept ours for 7 years, don't know how we came to that figure, it was maybe just plucked out of the air. Cant see why you would need to keep them that long as they are only proof of equipment being electrically sound, highlight any deterioration from the last test and proof that previous tests had been carried out.
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#3 Posted : 26 October 2006 15:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy Since you dont have to actually do PATesting, then there cant be any length of time stipulated to keep records for. PATesting is just one of many ways to ensure electrical safety, if its required. I usually keep last years record for reference only, then discard when next years is done so I only have current (sorry no pun intended) and last years.
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#4 Posted : 26 October 2006 15:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By cara Not really a difinitive answer but..... Record Keeping Records of tests along with test results should be kept throughout the working life of an appliance. Without such records duty holders cannot be certain that the inspection and testing has actually been carried out. If an unfortunate incident should occur then records of test results could prove that you had done all "as far as is reasonably practical" in preventing danger. Records should include: A register of all Equipment A record of formal visual inspections and tests A repair register A register of faulty equipment REF: http://www.pat-services.co.uk/default.asp?id=313
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#5 Posted : 26 October 2006 15:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy Cara, since many portable appliances have a relatively short life in todays throw away society, and given that PATesting records are usually a register, its unreasonable to expect to keep years worth of registers just because item out of 250 refuses to die. Unless you want me to do a manual "cut and paste" exercise every time an appliance or tool dies, then, sorry, my old records are bin bound!!
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#6 Posted : 26 October 2006 18:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor What is the purpose of records? Certainly in the event of an unfortunate accident it is evidence that the equipment was tested as safe at the time of the test (not the same as proving everything reasonably practicable had been done to keep the equipment safe). Should should demonstrate compliance with the Elec at Work Regs requirements for regular inspection and maintenance. I would certainly not keep records past the current ones - all that they prove is that you have been diligent in carrying out tests annually over a period of years they prove nothing about the current condition of the equipment
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#7 Posted : 26 October 2006 18:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Catman Hi All Just a thought, would the records not be useful in defending any future claim of an injury due to an accident involving a power tool? Or am I being daft again? TW
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#8 Posted : 26 October 2006 19:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Catman Sorry folks, posting at the same time as Martin there, but using Martin's logic and previous posts, people dont always report things at the time and the records could help 18 months down the line?
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#9 Posted : 26 October 2006 21:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony Brunskill Following Catman and Martin logic the reasonable time would be three years in line with Limitation of Liability Act.
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#10 Posted : 26 October 2006 21:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By SeanThompson 4 years, this is because to make a claim people have up to 3 years. If someone makes a claim at the last minute then i ensure the information is all there, so i keep it for an extra year
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#11 Posted : 27 October 2006 10:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By B Thanks everyone - very useful and along the same lines I was going down. I think I'm going to say 4 years - seems sensible to make sure we're covered for any potential claims. Thanks again. Beth
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