Posted By J Knight Hi Roger, What is the point of your post? More pointless EU bashing (its here, we're part of it, get on with it I say) or a genuine desire for information? A quick survey of the statutory instruments enforced by HSE (view them at http://www.cps.org.uk/latestlectures/) should convince you that most of these were not produced following EU directives. A recent set which are not is CDM; both the muddled original and its successor are entirely home grown. John

Posted By Roger Bodycote I am putting together a health and safety awarness course, and wanted to give an example of a Regulation that was not instigated by the EU. Also I wanted the example to be of a more recent date. Thanks for the info about the CDM Regs. Regards Roger.

Posted By John Murgatroyd Unless it hasn't been noticed, nothing comes from the EU. This country, in spite of the entrenched bigotry, is PART of the EU. The EU is us, and so Germany, France, et-al, are also part of us. The European Working Time Directive, for instance, was enacted as part of this countries H&S legislation. A bit like having a foot in both camps, but not being part of either. Someday soon the various peoples of THIS country are going to have to decide who they are. The WTD, never mind what you think of it, gave people in this country guaranteed holidays with pay, something that the government of the place just couldn't be bothered about.

Posted By Robert K Lewis Hence all regulations are home grown in response to a directive. Really nothing since around 1990 has been other than EU driven. like the curate's egg it is good in parts and badly drafted by UK drafters in the rest. Bob

Posted By John Murgatroyd 90/396/EEC Appliances burning gaseous fuels 00/9/EC Cableway installations designed to carry persons 89/106/EEC Construction products 89/336/EEC Electromagnetic compatibility 94/9/EC Equipment and protective systems in potentially explosive atmospheres 93/15/EEC Explosives for civil uses 95/16/EC Lifts 73/23/EEC Low voltage equipment 98/37/EC Machinery safety 2004/22/EEC Measuring instruments 90/385/EEC Medical devices: Active implantable 93/42/EEC Medical devices: General 98/79/EC Medical devices: In vitro diagnostic 92/42/EEC New hot-water boilers fired with liquid or gaseous fluids (efficiency requirements) 90/384/EEC Non-automatic weighing instruments 94/62/EC Packaging and packaging waste 89/686/EEC Personal protective equipment 97/23/EC Pressure equipment 99/5/EC Radio and telecommunications terminal equipment 94/25/EC Recreational craft 87/404/EEC Simple pressure vessels 88/378/EEC Toys safety I could go on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on...................................

Posted By Jim Walker Regarding the rants about EEC directives. These days I'm not all that "with it", but in my past was responsible for world wide standards compliance for a well known electrical / electronics manufacturer. Generally speaking the directives made my life much easier, the company products cheaper & safer. My gripe was with how UK transposed into UK law. For example, the Electromagnetic compatibility directive (EMC) was about 3 pages long (if you ignore the stuff common to every directive). The UK papershufflers managed to "improve" on that with a 90 page document! Solution - move manufacturing out of UK to somewhere (Spain & Portugal)that use and test to the 3 pager. Yet another reason why nothing is "Made in UK"