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#1 Posted : 11 January 2007 17:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leaman
Thank you all for your replies to my last thread about my problems with the window cleaner. Following all of your helpful advice and emails I spoke to the Senior Managers and explained why what and how we should do things together with several of the examples you have provided. Whether I will get a result is still up for debate but at least they can't say they weren't told. So thank you all again.

Thought you might like a picture of the current 'procedure' for your files. They say a picture speaks a thousand words.. how many bad practices can you spot?

http://i62.photobucket.c...6/I_JANUS_I/DSCF0073.jpg
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#2 Posted : 11 January 2007 17:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Paul,

thanks for the photo. I see he is clever enough to block the emergency exit and access to the fire extinguisher simultaneously.

Merv
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#3 Posted : 11 January 2007 18:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Nicholls
Thanks for the picture Paul.

He could leave quite an impression, in more ways than the obvious.

Good luck

Alan N
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#4 Posted : 11 January 2007 19:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48
Paul, but you didn't tell us that he had a Bruce Willis "I'm indestructable-look at my pecs" vest. Don't you know that this protects him from any danger and that he is no longer a mere mortal? Doh!

Seriously though, the very best of luck with moving forward, one day you will be able to recount this with a smile on your face.
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#5 Posted : 11 January 2007 19:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By RP
bad, very bad... how does he wring out his sponge?
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#6 Posted : 11 January 2007 19:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
look, if Bruce Willis can leap off a tall building wrapped only in a fire hose and smash through a plate glass window with just a few superficial cuts to his feet (bit of an "ouch" there if I remember correctly) (and not a first aider in sight) then I'm going to buy his tee-shirt.

My Hero !

Merv

It may not be Friday for you, but it nearly is here and I'm done for the week
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#7 Posted : 12 January 2007 06:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Granville Jenkins
Hi

As well as the other comments made, it is interesting to note that the ladder does not extend a suitable distance past the landing point and neither is the ladder tied in which together would give cause for concern!

On a lighter note, the guy is maintaining 3 points of contact (sic)!

Regards
Granville
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#8 Posted : 12 January 2007 08:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By I McDonald
Paul

surely this heroic chap could gain access by leaping from the mezz level handrail, grasping and swinging on the light fitting ending in one final leap to the point of work. This would then eliminate the need for the ladder thereby leaving the fire exit clear.

Bruce could do it!!!!

Ian
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#9 Posted : 12 January 2007 08:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Christopher
I presume that there isn't a safe system for changing the light bulbs when they go out!!!
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#10 Posted : 12 January 2007 08:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leaman
You really do NOT want to go there... Oh the joy of scaffold towers.
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#11 Posted : 12 January 2007 09:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Mathews
This is why I only like to use cowards for window cleaning, they just don't go there!

Richard
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#12 Posted : 12 January 2007 09:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By MT
Have the management no concept of what will happen should an Inspector happen to see this or hear of it?

Personally, and this is not a criticism of you, I could not stand by and watch this person working. I'd make an anonymous complain to the local Environmental Health department.
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#13 Posted : 12 January 2007 09:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bannister
French-owned = French attitudes to H&S?
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#14 Posted : 12 January 2007 10:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
I know it was done with the best will and intention to share bad practice, however could this be construed as 'prima facie' evidence for a prosecution as the HSE / LA people do use this site!
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#15 Posted : 12 January 2007 10:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philby'
Paul,

do you work for Peugeot or the dealership...?
This looks, and the road outside, suspiciously like a motor group I used to work for in gods own county...quite miss it really

Philby'
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#16 Posted : 12 January 2007 10:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
Because it is a Peugeot Dealership and in an ‘Allo Allo’ accent – “Cannot you see that he haz ze stealth of a Black Panther and grip of Spider Monkee when he is up ze ladder? How else is a simple window cleaner going to impress ze ladies.

Would love to see the ladder go when he’s above the tiled area. I don’t see any grip on that floor area.

Noticed you took his picture behind his back – coward. Don’t blame you – he looks he’s built like ze brick &&&& house.
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#17 Posted : 12 January 2007 11:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sovay Shaw
Nice to see the photo - quite took my breath away - very Bruce Willis-ey. (He's just signed up to do another Die Hard movie, anyone care to advise the film studio?
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#18 Posted : 12 January 2007 11:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Christopher
Yes, as experts in our field we can all come up with potential hazards. However, as some have identified on this thread the name of the organisation that Paul works for, is there not a danger of his actions being interpreted as 'whistleblowing'. It was a great picture, but not sure in YOUR own interests it was such a good idea. Have you checked your companies disciplinary policy?
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#19 Posted : 12 January 2007 12:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
You don't have to identify who Paul works for his email address gives that away!
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#20 Posted : 12 January 2007 12:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
Stand up and be counted!
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#21 Posted : 12 January 2007 17:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony Brunskill
TBC,

Who said that?
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#22 Posted : 12 January 2007 17:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leaman
The HSE are currently investigating the motor group as a whole and are disecting every dealership one by one and they are fully aware of the 'situation'. I have posted asking advice because of the wide ranging experience held by the users of this forum, however yes I guess I could be putting the pistol to my head. But without the advice and inspiration I get on this forum I really would be up against it.

The email address is one of convenience when working at one dealership of the many we currently have in the group and although it may or may not be currently under investigation I would like to add that the manufacturer is not nor ever has been involved in any situation that may now or in the future arise at my Employers dealership.

How did the situation arise back in the mists of time? The owner threw an EHO off of his property using some rather choice language..

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#23 Posted : 12 January 2007 21:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By martin gray1


Is it Charlie Stubbs?



I know I need to get out more!

MG
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#24 Posted : 13 January 2007 18:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
Can't tell you who said it because the mods might slap my wrists 'again'.
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