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#1 Posted : 22 February 2007 19:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By P. Moore I was wondering if anyone could help with the below. Is there any legal requirement for a specific gauge specification of bag to hold asbestos waste collected during a non-licenseable task? I cannot find anything specific, beyond references to heavy duty and robust bags. Thank you.
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#2 Posted : 22 February 2007 21:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mick154 Hi P Moore There is no legal requirement for the specification of bags although some asbestos removers would like to make you think there is so as to up the price The packaging for waste should, as you say heavy duty and robust You can use what ever as long as you do it safely so that nothing can spill and labelled according to reg 24 and Schedule 2 of The Control of Asbestos Regulations 2006 I have move asbestos in all manor of packages over the years, but I recommend good firm bags, and double bagged at that three links that may help http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2006/20062739.htm#24 http://www.environment-a...hw_bgasb_2grj_886834.doc http://www.arcaweb.org.uk/ARCA_index1024.asp mick
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#3 Posted : 26 February 2007 10:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson Not correct. The disposal of Asbestos waste is classed as Hazardous waste and as such HWRegs and ADR (Carriage of DG Applies! You must use UN Approved waste bags which must be certified as such and double bagged. If it cannot be double bagged it must be double wrapped in 1000 gauge polythen and sealed so as to prevent the release of fibres. If you are carrying over 1000kg of Packaged white or 500kg packaged Blue / browm then the driver must be ADR trained and the vehicle must display the orange rectangle and a 'Tremcard'in the vehicle as well as the correct fire extinguiser etc. Do not think that you can wrap this in any old bin liner etc.
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#4 Posted : 26 February 2007 10:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson And the bags must not be overloaded and the max weight is displayed on the bag as this is what the manufactures UN classification is for. eg the bags been tested to this standard
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#5 Posted : 26 February 2007 19:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By P. Moore Thank you for this. Which particular regulation states the gauge of the bag and the need for UN approval?
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#6 Posted : 01 March 2007 16:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson CAR 06 Schedule 2 Regs 14(4), 24(2) & (3) 30(1) & (2) and HSG 247 Licensed contractors guide appendix 7. 1 & 7.2
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#7 Posted : 01 March 2007 19:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By P. Moore Thank you Dave. I have had a look through this information, but can only see reference to the need for correct labelling and nothing on the gauge of the bags. Have I missed something?
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#8 Posted : 05 March 2007 09:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson Because this is Haz waste and as such you have to use 'Approved UN packaging' under Dangerous Goods Regs / ADR for the movement of any DG's. Therefore approved UN Asbestos waste bags or 1000 gauge poly is required for the movement of Asbestos Waste. As usual the HSE / EA / VOSA do not cross reference their requirements
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#9 Posted : 05 March 2007 12:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By M Abrar No specification is given in the Regs or the ACoP, other than the need for the bags to be suitable. Suitable means able to retain the waste without being breached throughout their use,handling and transportation. The usual practice is for bags to be of at least (which usually means no more than!) 1000 guage thickness. If the waste (or the way the bags are handled) is liable to puncture the bags, then additional precautions will be needed (e.g. covering sharp edges before bagging). Hope this helps.
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#10 Posted : 05 March 2007 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chas I may be going off on a tangent slightly, but I remember a prosecution sometime ago where a supplier of asbestos waste bags was taken to court for supplying inferior (non UN)bags. I cannot remember the name of the supplier or any more details of the case and a trawl of the HSE prosecutions database revealed nothing, however someone in the asbestos world may know more.
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