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#1 Posted : 27 June 2007 15:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Mackessack I am looking for a sources of information (statistical or articles) that outline outbreaks of Legionnaire's across the globe, especially Germany and mainland Europe. The reason is that some of my German colleagues, although apparently acknowledging the risk, often scoff and say that it 'isn't a problem in Germany'. Even my lovely lady (who's been a German all her life) stares at me with a blank, slightly disapproving look, that only Germans can give! I would like to alter their opinion with some good old fashioned, home grown facts. However, I have tried the Berufsgenossenschaft's website, BAuA, OSHA EU and a host of other shady EU sites (ahem), and have drawn a blank. I have Googled my days away to within an inch of a written warning! All to no avail. If it really isn't a 'problem', does anyone know why? How does Germany control the risk apparently soooo well? is it something in the water? Come on you learned bunch! Please help this 'Inselaffe' in his quest! John
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#2 Posted : 27 June 2007 15:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Manny Check out this website: http://hygieneinspektion...6022.de/legionellen.html You could also visit the site of the Robert Koch Institute. It's nearly time to go home here in Germany so have a nice evening, bis Morgen. Tschuss Manny
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#3 Posted : 27 June 2007 15:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Mackessack Hi Manny, Vielen dank! Das ist sehr nützlich. Haben Sie einen angenehmen Abend. Mit freundlichen gruessen, John p.s. I hope this isn't too grammatically incorrect!
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#4 Posted : 27 June 2007 15:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gff Wenn Sie herausfinden, kann Sie tun, um die Ruhe von uns zu lassen, um zu wissen. Auf Englisch Very intersting! G'
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#5 Posted : 27 June 2007 19:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Leese I'm surprised, I thought the Germans started it!
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#6 Posted : 28 June 2007 09:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Manny John, your German is fine but can you please give Gff a bit of tuition? Danke Manny
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#7 Posted : 29 June 2007 12:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By CWCaz Hi John My Grade E GSCE German isn't great so I will reply in English! We have been researching Legionella for all sorts recently, and I have been looking at e-journals on this website which have journals and articles from all over the world. Its an american site and takes an bit of getting used to, but there are lots of free journals avaliable to print out: www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/ (its not a pib website unfortunately) Caz
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#8 Posted : 29 June 2007 13:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Je ne peux pas vous aider avec vos problemes allemands, mais les Francais sont très sensibles aux questions de légionellose. Sincère salutations Merv Have a nice day
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#9 Posted : 29 June 2007 14:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By CWCaz Ok even I got that!
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#10 Posted : 29 June 2007 14:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brigham I thought it was the French who had problems with Legionnaires...
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#11 Posted : 29 June 2007 15:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Draper Seriously though, as far as I am aware, Germans have no specific immunity to the legionella bacillus and the environment is not inimical to it's growth. i.e. it's there and under the right conditions would result in cases of legionnaire's disease. If there were a pattern that prevents this from happening, I would suggest looking at cultural differences for it's source. Some nations have very different value systems and there is often great diversity within a nation.
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#12 Posted : 30 June 2007 10:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilly Margrave If it's the stats you want have a look at: http://www.ewgli.org/dat...onset_country_report.asp It's worth a browse around the site for other fascinating factoids. Gilly
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