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Admin		#1 Posted : 06 August 2007 15:25:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By The toecap I need to start a regime where DO's are reported. I plan to have a post box and post card system to enable guys on site to report their concerns and obervations anon. Has anybody got a template by which to so this or any thoughts.
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Admin		#2 Posted : 06 August 2007 16:22:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By garyh Do you really mean "Near Misses"? In the past I have made the forms freely available to all (eg in canteens etc) and anyone could submit one - they could either go through the supervisor or to the safety Dept.
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Admin		#3 Posted : 06 August 2007 16:31:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By anon1234 If safety professionals are using the wrong terminology it's no wonder that many in the workforce think every incident is a 'dangerous occurrence'
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Admin		#4 Posted : 06 August 2007 16:45:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By The toecap Okay. Near misses, dangerous occurences, safety concerns, event witness statement. I'm sure there are other terms. Has anybody got a form i may adapt for the reporting of such events
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Admin		#5 Posted : 06 August 2007 16:54:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By ITK Sure gary was only making reference to the fact that some D'Os are RIDDOR reportable.
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Admin		#6 Posted : 06 August 2007 16:57:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By anon1234 Assuming you are in the UK, I would go as far as saying all DO's are reportable under RIDDOR - as RIDDOR has defined what a DO is.
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Admin		#7 Posted : 06 August 2007 17:06:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By ITK The only reportable D'Os are defined in Riddor. A "dangerous occurence" may occur however it may not be necessarily RIDDOR.
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Admin		#8 Posted : 06 August 2007 17:33:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By PH Doesn't this thread just sum up this forum. It is perfectly obvious what toecap is asking for, yet (some) people feel the need to patronise, belittle or be just plain rude. I think this says far more about safety professionals than an apparent 'lack' of knowledge. P
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Admin		#9 Posted : 07 August 2007 09:29:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By The toecap Yes, and so back to the original request.
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Admin		#10 Posted : 07 August 2007 09:32:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Heather Collins Toecap There was a thread on this last week which might be helpful. It's slipped onto page 2 now - loook for "near miss postcards" - one or two people on there had systems they were willing to share.
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Admin		#11 Posted : 07 August 2007 09:45:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By The toecap Thanks for the useful info,
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Admin		#12 Posted : 07 August 2007 09:47:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By The toecap Heather, can you remeber the title of the thread?
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Admin		#13 Posted : 07 August 2007 13:33:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Kevin Ray Toecap, I may have somthing you can use if you e-mail me I will send it direct.
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Admin		#14 Posted : 07 August 2007 13:57:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Heather Collins Toecap I already said the title... "near miss postcards". Having that sort of day? :)
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Admin		#15 Posted : 07 August 2007 14:15:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By ITK LOL
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Admin		#16 Posted : 07 August 2007 14:29:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By The toecap Doh!. Thanks i found it
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Admin		#17 Posted : 08 August 2007 10:01:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By garyh It is really important to get the terminology right - it is not trivial at all. In my view, and considerable experience, the terms "Dangerous Occurrence" and "Near Miss" are very different and so should be kept separate and used in context. The possibiliity of getting confused with the RIDDOR NDO is obvious. In addition, it is certainily not true that all DOs are NDOs under RIDDOR! RIDDOR is very specific on what is reportable.
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Admin		#18 Posted : 08 August 2007 10:54:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Heather Collins I find there is more of an issue with the term "near miss". It's hard to get someone to understand how a FLT hitting a wall can be a near miss when obviously it was actually a hit! We now call them near misses/incidents and have changed the name of our form accordingly. I too would avoid the term dangerous occurrence though I don't think it's that much of a big deal provided the person responsible for RIDDOR reporting understands the difference...
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Admin		#19 Posted : 08 August 2007 11:28:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Seano Isn't it a near hit?
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Admin		#20 Posted : 08 August 2007 14:46:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Dave West Toecap i will mail you direct about the post card. I have to say on this post that no wonder some people worry about asking questions as they are in fear of being shot down.
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Admin		#21 Posted : 08 August 2007 14:47:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Paul Darby I would say an FLT hitting a wall is a direct hit!!!... especially if I was the wall!! ;-) On a more serious note, we tend to refer to a Dangerous Occurance as serious incident, that may have involved equipment or property damage, but not human injury. We class a near-miss as an non damage event, but only by luck, chance or co-incidentce it did not result in an injury accident or dangerous occurance.
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