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#1 Posted : 12 December 2007 14:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Cookson
Can someone please help me?

If we are to carry 1000 litres of red diesel in a bunded tank and 2 bottles of acetylene (83kg) and 3 bottles of oxygen (80kg) are we below the threshold limits or does the full requirements of ADR apply?

Or can you please give me a contact who can give me some advice??



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#2 Posted : 12 December 2007 15:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By TK
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You would be above the small loads threshold.

Diesel is a transport category 3 product (asphyxiant/oxidant) and the exemption allows the transport of up to 1000 litres of this product.

Assuming you have 1000 litres of the product in tank then even if you added just one cylinder of oxygen or LPG, you would exceed the threshold!

Thomas
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#3 Posted : 12 December 2007 15:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robin B
Hi
I think you are over the threshold as the category 3 goods [the diesel and the oxygen] together are over the 1000 units.

When you add the acetylene you have to multiply this by 3 giving a total of 1329 units.

The goods can only be transported under full UN.

Regards
Robin B
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#4 Posted : 12 December 2007 16:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merlin
here is a link to ADR 2007

http://www.unece.org/tra...adr2007/07ContentsE.html

one question- how often do you transport the diesel?
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#5 Posted : 13 December 2007 15:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Kavanagh
My first thought was - are they planning a thermobaric device...?

Diesel may not be transported with class 2 (Acetylene and oxygen). Assuming you do not carry the Acetylene and Oxygen, there are some CDGRR exemptions for diesel (if you were staying within the UK), but even so with the quantity you indicated you need the full ADR for vehicle and unit.
Oxygen and Acetylene are both LQ 0 - so there is no limited quantity exeptions.

You need to engage the services of a DGSA who is qualified for Road Class 2 and Class3 or Road all classes.
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#6 Posted : 13 December 2007 17:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Pope
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Our local H&S group Somerset Occupational Health & Safety Association had a talk yesterday by a highly qualified DGSA I will send you his details Anthony M Waite CEnv IEng DMS DGSA TechIOSH HIWO MCIM MSOE ACIBSE
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#7 Posted : 13 December 2007 17:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colin Reeves
Brian

Thanks. I was thinking there were problems in the mix suggested at the start, but my knowledge is of marine legislation, not ADR. Certainly he would NOT be allowed on one of my ships!

Colin
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