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Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter Can anyone point me to the right section (if there is one). I'm trying to find reference to safety monitoring (or any monitoring) in the HSaWA74, but currently unable to find it. Yes I know there's requirement in the Management regs but unable to find it in the Act. The answer will aid a legislative research.
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Posted By Jay Joshi HASAWA has genral duties-- Duties under Section 2, 3, 4 cannot be ensured unless there is some form of monitoring, especially "safe systems of work".
Alternatively, as the Management Regulations are explicit in context of monitoring, you CAN link this to HASAWA as HASAWA allows for regulations to be made!(Section 15)
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Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter Thanks Jay.
Now does anyone know of a web site that I can access the Management Regs without having to wrestle with the HSE's search engine for the section on monitoring?
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Posted By Dave Wilson There is NO specific legal requirement to undertake safety monitoring.
See HSG65 in the Foreward section.
However how else do you know how well you are performing?
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Except that adequate supervision requirements under section 2 can be interpreted as including the monitoring of work. After all if the supervisor has no idea of what is happening is he actually supervising?
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Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter Dave You mentioned HSG65. As section 5 of HSG65 covers monitoring, compliance is required in accordance with clause 16 & 17 of the HSWA bcs of its quasi legal status. Apart from the HSG65 I'm beginning to feel there's no out and out absolute use of the word 'monitoring' in either the Act or Mangt Regs. Unless some one can say different / point to a specific section in a passage.
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Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter Thanks Paul, found it!
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Posted By Dave Wilson Do not get mixed up with Statutory requirements and good practice.
HS G(guidance) is just that so I Disagree completely.
Guidance is just that, You do not have to comply with guidance note, foolish not too right enough.
Generally there is NO legal requirement to undertake safety monitoring
MHSW s5 Every employer shall make and give effect to such arrangements as are appropriate, having regard to the nature of his activities and the size of his undertaking, for the effective planning, organisation, control, monitoring and review of the preventive and protective measures
Do not see the word auditing in there!
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Posted By Jay Joshi I am surprised that we are being pedantic about the terms used in regulation 5 and then interpret it as though somehow, auditing is not required because that word "auditing" is not used !
The ACOP to regulation 5 of MHSWR 99 is:-
This regulation requires employers to have arrangements in place to cover health and safety. Effective management of health and safety will depend, amongst other things, on a suitable and sufficient risk assessment being carried out and the findings being used effectively. The health and safety arrangements can be integrated into the management system for all other aspects of the organisation's activities. The management system adopted will need to reflect the complexity of the organisation's activities and working environment. Where the work process is straightforward and the risks generated are relatively simple to control, then very straightforward management systems may be appropriate. For large complicated organisations more complex systems may be appropriate. Although the principles of the management arrangements are the same irrespective of the size of an organisation. The key elements of such effective systems can be found in Successful Health and Safety Management (see references and further reading section) or the British Standard for Health and Safety Management Systems BS 8800.
A successful health and safety management system will include all the following elements.
Planning, Organisation, Control, Monitoring and Review
Review involves:
(a) establishing priorities for necessary remedial action that were discovered as a result of monitoring to ensure that suitable action is taken in good time and is completed;
(b) periodically reviewing the whole of the health and safety management system including the elements of planning, organisation, control and monitoring to ensure that the whole system remains effective
From the above ACoP, specifically the ACoP on Review, it is fairly obvious that some form of "audit" is required. What the AcoP allows is that the management system will depend upon the complexity (or simplicity)of the organisation's activities and working environment.
Let us not forget the an ACoP is not just guidance.
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Posted By Dave Wilson Is this ACoP or Guidance in the ACoP?
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Posted By Jay Joshi Dave,
This is all ACoP, not guidance!!You need to refer to the Second (2000) Edition of L 21 that was published after the 1999 regs. The ACoP material in first edition was very limited
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