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#1 Posted : 04 February 2008 15:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Emma Righton-Corrick, Dip2OSH, CMIOSH, MIIRSM, MInstLM Hi All What quantities of gas in cylinders can someone without an ADR type licence carry? Am I right in thinking that any transportation of gas cylinders must be behind a sealed bulk-head from the cockpit of the vehicle? Many thanks Ems
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#2 Posted : 04 February 2008 15:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By JimE Hi Emma, I used to have a wee donut van powered by gas and I was informed I must have the canister/bottle contained in a seperate unit away from the towing vehicle.Hope this helps, sorry I don't know the regs specifically. JimE
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#3 Posted : 04 February 2008 15:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jay Joshi refer to BCGA's "Carriage of gas cylinders by road in cars, vans and other vehicles. Rev 1 : 2005." at:- http://www.bcga.co.uk/publications/L1.pdf
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#4 Posted : 04 February 2008 15:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve j B Hi Emma, 333kg is the threshold limit for carrying gas cylinders. Over this then CDG/ADR kicks in in full. The 333KG limit also depends on whether there are mixed loads of other substances classified as hazardous for transport. Mixed loads need to be calculated as per CDG/ADR. Irrespective of how much is carried the driver will need to have general health and safety training regarding carrying gas cylinders and carry the necessary fire fighting equipment. Also cylinders should be carried ideally in open backed vehicles. Hope this helps Steve
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#5 Posted : 04 February 2008 16:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By IainThomson Steve, You are not entirely correct Emma was not clear on the types of gases she is asking about and as such your reply is not quite complete. Toxic gas is 20ltrs Flammable is 333ltrs and Compressed gas is 1000 ltrs, This information is provided in section (table) of 1.1.3.6.3 of ADR The measurement comes from the water capacity of the cylinder hence litres not KG’s Iain T
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#6 Posted : 04 February 2008 16:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve j B Hi Ian, Thanks for pointing out my incorret response. I assumed that she was talking about LPG. Lesson: never assume its makes an ass out of u and me Steve
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#7 Posted : 04 February 2008 17:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colin Reeves I would also point out that the limited quantity for carriage at sea is different from the ADR. For example, Butane and Propane have no limited quantity and need to be declared whatever the quantity. This applies both to cross-channel ferries and to domestic ferries (e.g Isle of Wight or Calmac to the Western Isles). Colin
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#8 Posted : 04 February 2008 18:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Emma Righton-Corrick, Dip2OSH, Dip.RSA, CMIOSH, MIIRSM, MInstLM Cheers guys, thats great help.
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#9 Posted : 05 February 2008 09:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve j B Hi Emma, Just to clarify Iains Ltrs v Kg of gas in cylinders To determine the quantity of the gas in a cylinder the following rules apply. Compressed gases = water capacity of cylinder in litres Liquefied gases = nett mass of gas in kg Dissolved gases = nett mass of gas in kg Alos worth a note that Cheers Steve
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