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Posted By Emma Righton-Corrick, Dip2OSH, CMIOSH, MIIRSM, MInstLM
Hi All
What quantities of gas in cylinders can someone without an ADR type licence carry?
Am I right in thinking that any transportation of gas cylinders must be behind a sealed bulk-head from the cockpit of the vehicle?
Many thanks
Ems
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Posted By JimE
Hi Emma,
I used to have a wee donut van powered by gas and I was informed I must have the canister/bottle contained in a seperate unit away from the towing vehicle.Hope this helps, sorry I don't know the regs specifically.
JimE
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Posted By Steve j B
Hi Emma,
333kg is the threshold limit for carrying gas cylinders. Over this then CDG/ADR kicks in in full.
The 333KG limit also depends on whether there are mixed loads of other substances classified as hazardous for transport. Mixed loads need to be calculated as per CDG/ADR.
Irrespective of how much is carried the driver will need to have general health and safety training regarding carrying gas cylinders and carry the necessary fire fighting equipment.
Also cylinders should be carried ideally in open backed vehicles.
Hope this helps
Steve
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Posted By IainThomson
Steve,
You are not entirely correct Emma was not clear on the types of gases she is asking about and as such your reply is not quite complete.
Toxic gas is 20ltrs
Flammable is 333ltrs
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Compressed gas is 1000 ltrs,
This information is provided in section (table) of 1.1.3.6.3 of ADR
The measurement comes from the water capacity of the cylinder hence litres not KG’s
Iain T
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Posted By Steve j B
Hi Ian,
Thanks for pointing out my incorret response. I assumed that she was talking about LPG.
Lesson: never assume its makes an ass out of u and me
Steve
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Posted By Colin Reeves
I would also point out that the limited quantity for carriage at sea is different from the ADR. For example, Butane and Propane have no limited quantity and need to be declared whatever the quantity.
This applies both to cross-channel ferries and to domestic ferries (e.g Isle of Wight or Calmac to the Western Isles).
Colin
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Posted By Emma Righton-Corrick, Dip2OSH, Dip.RSA, CMIOSH, MIIRSM, MInstLM
Cheers guys, thats great help.
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Posted By Steve j B
Hi Emma,
Just to clarify Iains Ltrs v Kg of gas in cylinders
To determine the quantity of the gas in a cylinder the following rules apply.
Compressed gases = water capacity of cylinder in litres
Liquefied gases = nett mass of gas in kg
Dissolved gases = nett mass of gas in kg
Alos worth a note that
Cheers
Steve
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