IOSH forums home
»
Our public forums
»
OSH discussion forum
»
Building Fire Safety - Emergency Lighting and neon Signage
Rank: Guest
|
Posted By John Mac Carthy All Can someone advise me where it is clarified as a prescriptive requirement to have emergency lighting in a building and neon directional signage, thank you. Overview: It’s an old building which is due for demolition in approximately three years time. The building is a store for clothing mainly with some offices; the store also houses flammables adjacent, albeit in an intrinsic store, to usual 'EX' rating etc. It doesn't have any emergency lighting or neon signage; do I need to have it updated considering the lifespan of the building? Thanks John JohnMacCarthy25@yahoo.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Posted By Steve H Whats the occupancy levels? Whats the times when the building is occupied? What are the ignition sources? What does your Fire RA say
Steve
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Posted By John Mac Carthy Steve
Occupancy levels - 10 permanent with anything up to 100 bodies gaining access for stores issues. Building is occupied - normal office hours 8am-5pm M-F. What are the ignition sources - flammable materials storage - external, internal - cardboard and general clothing. What does your Fire RA - not completed by me and a copy is awaited?
I'm trying to find clarity whether or not it must be brought up to date?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Posted By Lloyd Cole Im afraid the answer is yes to both, not only for the RRFSO 2006, but the WHSW regs 1992 require the lighting (regulation 8)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Posted By John A Wright John M,
Ignition sources - this means are there any naked flames (e.g. in boilers, cookers, tools), sources of sparks, heaters, very hot surfaces, hot processes, electrical appliances that might be faulty?
John W
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Posted By John Mac Carthy
Thanks for that :)
Ignition sources minimum risk, all items within PAT, boilers within service/PPM schedules.
Legislation bit - thanks!
More info/opinions/suggestions are always welcome.
Thanks
John
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Posted By John A Wright John W,
Whether your boiler is serviced or not it still has a flame, so it's an ignition source :o)
You mentioned flammables. Do you mean flammable liquids, gases?
or did you mean combustibles: paper, cardboard, textiles?
They are all regarded as fuel anyway.
Let's not go through the whole process of fire risk assessemnt here, I suggest you check out the free on-line guides at the HSE site.
John W
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Posted By Lloyd Cole Hello good all.
The thread is losing the question, its not a case of FRA, its a case of WHSW regulation, the guy has more than 5 employees and regulation 8 is the requirement. He will have to have the lighting because its other than a domestic dwelling as written in the RRFSO and early document "B".
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Posted By Ron Hunter John,
Just a suggestion, with a little bit of planning it should be possible to salvage the investment components and take it with you when you move, or else sell second hand. Either way, you've no option, although there is no requirement for "neon" lighting.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
|
Posted By John A Wright Lloyd,
Yes I take your point about the original question, but from John M's later comments it was clear he had no Fire Risk Assessment and did not understand how to do it.
John M,
With regard to signs, you also confusing luminous signs with neon signs, I suspect.
John W
|
|
|
|
|
|
IOSH forums home
»
Our public forums
»
OSH discussion forum
»
Building Fire Safety - Emergency Lighting and neon Signage
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.