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Posted By lewes
I have just done a Search but alas not much came up.
What are the requirements and costs associated with running IOSH courses ?? We are looking to run these in-house for our managers and supervisors.
Has anyone had good or bad experience ??
Thanks for any input
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Posted By Richard Altoft
we are licensed to run various of these courses and have found them to be well received and very economical for our clients the way we offer them. Contact me directly if we can help
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Posted By Biggles473
I'm licensed to run IOSH Working Safely 3.0 and have a small beef about the people who oversee the running and delivery of courses, purely in so much as they aren't as qualified as me to either talk about H&S or deliver training courses.
Other than that the courses are expensive to buy initially if you are doing that yourself and unless you can get some admin support they are a bit long winded to administer too.
Hope you can find someone who will employ you to deliver these courses in these difficult times though...what's the first thing employers will be cutting back on? Something that doesn't make money for them...Health & Safety of course.
Good luck,
Biggles473
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Posted By D H
Biggles - be aware that there is a new version of IOSH Working Safely - 3.1 - that started from April this year.
I got pulled yesterday for using the 3.0 paperwork!
As far as I am aware, you need to be NEBOSH qualified to deliver IOSH training.
Dave
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Posted By Rob35
I run the Managing Safely both in house at my current employer and externally with my own consultancy.
Apart from the cost of the package it was all relatively straight forward, however the other posting is correct you do need to hold H&S qualification and experience in training to run and I believe a Chartered Member to over see the course.
Contact the training department as they will be able to help you further.
If you want to discuss further, feel free to contact me
Regards
Rob35
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Posted By D H
You are correct about the Chartered member Rob - I forgot to mention that.
Dave
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Posted By Phil Rose
Have used the IOSH MS course over the years. Put quite a few people through it (the 'new style course) in the last year. I wasn't particularly impressed with the outcome and the feedback I got wasn't overwhelmingly positive. After so many years, it could and should be so much better!
We have subsequently decided to run our own 'in house' course. I am convinced that I can do at least as good a job myself in less time and get a better outcome.
I sent IOSH a comprehensive e mail outlining my thoughts over a month ago - no response!
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Posted By mark limon
In addition to information already given The cost of the course license is £1500 +vat ,then there is course books at £16 each.
I "think" there are new laws coming out that insist on a person holding at least a delivering learning type qualification to be able to deliver formal training.
I'm surprised IOSH have not responded to a request for information because when I asked (2 years ago)I got a virtually immediate response, Mark
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Posted By D H
Mark - we print our own delegate books out.
Dave
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Posted By GaryC40
A minimum of NGC and two years of delivering training courses is required to be considered to become an IOSH trainer.
In addition, after confirmation that quals and experience are adequate you will have to attend a 'familiarisation' training day at the Grange.
When accepted, your first training course is likely to be moderated by IOSH.
Chartered status is not a requirement.
You must be a member.
Affiliate status is satisfactory.
Contact IOSH training and they will forward you all the information you require for MS and WS - they are very helpful and will talk you through the process.
The above is relevant for both MS & WS.
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Posted By D H
Gary - disagree:
"Chartered status is not a requirement" - it is required for registration to become a provider.
"You must be a member" - incorrect.
"Affiliate status is satisfactory" - again incorrect.
We have been training IOSH courses for a number of years.
We also have a cross checking system and some of my colleagues who teach and cross mark IOSH courses (Working and Managing safely) are not IOSH members.
Welcome your response!
Dave
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Posted By GaryC40
Dave,
I suspect information you have given was correct at one time, however the information i have given (as i understand it) is presently accurate.
I have only just went through the complete process for delivering MS & WS and i do not think i have misinterpreted anything.
I stand by my comments, however if i have made an error then perhaps the mod can clarify?
Suffice to say that my quals and experience have been deemed satisfactory to deliver both MS & WS and i am not chartered.
Affiliate membership status in conjunction with an NGC and 2 years delivering training experience is the minimum for consideration. Once through this stage one must attend the one day course at the Grange as previously stated at a cost of £29.00. This as i understand it covers both MS & WS.
Again your initial delivery is very likely to be attended/moderated by an IOSH 'inspector' to ensure delivery quality is satisfactory.
Cheers
Gary
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Posted By GaryC40
In addition...
WS @ £900 + £160 for the licence
MS @ £1500 + as above
+ other costs such as delegate books,certificates, course fees and renewal of licence annually.
Gary
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Posted By D H
Hi Garry - I presently work for a safety consultancy / training facility.
We have a CMIOSH who allows us to get our registration.
I personally am GradIosh and 30 years work experience.
My colleagues did not have IOSH membership - although they have the relevant experience and are licensed and registered with IOSH for WS and MS
We recently applied to deliver NEBOSH and only then were they required to be IOSH members.
Please advise me If my colleagues are no longer meeting the requirements to deliver IOSH training.
This is important for my company.
Look forward to your reply.
Best regards
Dave
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Posted By GaryC40
Dave,
I think that perhaps the criteria i stated only applies to new applicants.
Best to contact IOSH training to clarify.
I dealt with Julie Highland who was very helpful and guided me through the process.
In the meantime drop me an email and i will forward you further details which may assist.
Cheers
Gary
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Posted By PhilP
DH
Sorry but I have to agree with Gary.
I have been waiting to gain my CMIOSH so I could present IOSH courses. Once that was done and I visited The Grange for the familiarisation day for Managing Safely, at which point we were also informed that ‘membership’ was the requirement (at any level).
I like Gary think the move away from having a CMIOSH registered to the course, may have been introduced with the new 3.0 version of Managing Safely. It may be a strategic move by IOSH to open the courses up to more training companies, who knows without an official response.
But it does seem very strange as it is a significant change of direction that could potentially introduce sub-standard training to the IOSH brand. But that’s a totally different thread and not the point of the original question.
Phil
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Posted By N Smith
Hi All
I have been looking into running these courses, I thought that CMIOSH was only for delivering and overseeing Directing Safely, so have been watching this thread with interest. As I am GradIOSH I emailed IOSH this morning to clarify and mentioned this thread and this is the response
"To oversee Managing and Working safely in the UK, you need to be an Affiliate member or above so you meet the criteria for these courses.
I think the thread might be in connection with courses such as Safety for senior executives and Directing safely where the criteria for the responsible person is CMIOSH or above".
Neil
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Posted By D H
Many thanks for the info folks.
Dave
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Posted By Martin Gray
Lewes
There was a recent article in SHP (March) entitled 'How do I delver IOSH training? this advsed to contact the training team on 0116 257 3192 or visit the iosh website enjoylearning.
I contacted the team and found them to be very helpful and they in turn sent me the relevant information.
Good luck
Martin
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Posted By Caroline Holden
Hello everyone
To clarify the licensing criteria to deliver the different levels of employee health and safety training are as follows:
For Managing Safely and Working Safely courses trainers need to have:
1. A Qualifications and Curriculum Authority recognised health and safety qualification at national level 3 (such as the NEBOSH General Certificate or equivalent).
2. Two years' training delivery experience of which at least 50% of the time was spent delivering courses face to face.
3. Attended an IOSH familiarisation training session.
4. The organisation will need to have an IOSH member at a minimum of Affiliate level to work with IOSH's training quality control team in overseeing the courses.
For Directing Safely trainers need to have:
1. CMIOSH level of membership of IOSH.
2. Provide three references from companies with up to 250 employees.
3. Attended an IOSH familiarisation training session.
4. The organisation will need to have a CMIOSH to work with IOSH's training quality control team in overseeing the courses.
For Safety for Senior Executives trainers need to have:
1. CMIOSH level of membership of IOSH.
2. Provide three references from companies with 250 employees or more.
3. Attended an IOSH familiarisation training session.
4. The organisation will need to have a CMIOSH to work with IOSH's training quality control team in overseeing the courses.
NB: the requirement to have an IOSH member to oversee the courses could be one person fulfilling both roles (trainer and IOSH member) or two people depending on the availability of suitably qualified people witin the organisation.
Various fees relate to both the purchase of either our packaged course or for having your own course approved to IOSH standards and the delivery of the courses.
For full details including a copy of the relevant brochures and prices please contact training@iosh.co.uk.
Regards
Caroline Holden
Commercial Affairs Director
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