Posted By L.E.A.H
A construction firm with say 50 sites around the UK has 50 old style posters at the said sites.

Say all these sites are completed today and the signs are decommissioned.

50 new sites in different locations start up next week.

The old HSE posters CAN be reused on the new sites, all that has to change obviously is the info on the poster that needs to be filled in.

When 50 new sites start in 2014 then the new version of the poster MUST be used.

This thread is like 2 bald men arguing over a comb!

Posted By L.E.A.H
In a nutshell, the new poster HAS to be used when 2014 comes around.

The 'old' style one can be used and reused how many times you want up until then.

Posted By Nicholas Sutcliffe
buy the new poster now or in a couple of years, I really don't see the issue, there is no illegal advertising taking place, its called small print and is used in pretty much all advertising.

if you don't want to but it now, just don't, if you do then there are places that will sell it to you.

no big deal, no unlawful campaign, no pressure selling.

Posted By L.E.A.H
From my email inbox today from Sophie....best practice recommends that a new poster be displayed at every entrance of your workplace-order yours now...only £10.22


Best practice eh, every entrance...misleading Id say so

Posted By Al..
All workers have a right to work in places where risks to their health and safety are properly controlled. Health and safety is about stopping you getting hurt at work or ill through work. Your employer is responsible for health and safety, but you must help.

What employers must do for you
1 Decide what could harm you in your job and the precautions to stop it. This is part of risk assessment.
2 In a way you can understand, explain how risks will be controlled and tell you who is responsible for this.
3 Consult and work with you and your health and safety representatives in protecting everyone from harm in the workplace.
4 Free of charge, give you the health and safety training you need to do your job.
5 Free of charge, provide you with any equipment and protective clothing you need, and ensure it is properly looked after.
6 Provide toilets, washing facilities and drinking water.
7 Provide adequate first-aid facilities.
8 Report injuries, diseases and dangerous incidents at work to our Incident Contact Centre: 0845 300 9923
9 Have insurance that covers you in case you get hurt at work or ill through work. Display a hard copy or electronic copy of the current insurance certificate where you can easily read it.
10 Work with any other employers or contractors sharing the workplace or providing employees (such as agency workers), so that everyone’s health and safety is protected.

What you must do
1 Follow the training you have received when using any work items your employer has given you.
2 Take reasonable care of your own and other people’s health and safety.
3 Co-operate with your employer on health and safety.
4 Tell someone (your employer, supervisor, or health and safety representative) if you think the work or inadequate precautions are putting anyone’s health and safety at serious risk.

If there’s a problem
1 If you are worried about health and safety in your workplace, talk to your employer, supervisor, or health and safety representative.
2 You can also look at our website for general information about health and safety at work.
3 If, after talking with your employer, you are still worried, phone our Infoline. We can put you in touch with the local enforcing authority for health and safety and the Employment Medical Advisory Service. You don’t have to give your name. HSE Infoline: 0845 345 0055 HSE website: www.hse.gov.uk

Fire safety
You can get advice on fire safety from the Fire and Rescue Services or your workplace fire officer.

Employment rights
Find out more about your employment rights at: www.direct.gov.uk

Posted By Bob Shillabeer
Wasn't going to but in response to one posting I willtry and explain the position.

Yes you can continue to use the old poster until the time epiry date provided it is readable and accurate. If however, there is any change to the information it contains or become unreadable then it must be replaced withthe new version. Where you start at a new site you must display the new poster. the fact that the old poster may continue to be displayed until they become unreadable/inaccurate does not extend to new places of work. The continued use of the old poster is a concession granted to existing workplaces only.

Posted By Phil Rose
I love this thread!!! And in case anybody hadn't got it, the new poster ........................

No sorry I thought it was Friday then - oops.

Posted By Coshh Assessor
I'm only sorry I ever mentioned it. I'm getting dizzy from the deja vu.

Posted By Bob Shillabeer
Final words honest (don't work Fridays anyway).

The new posters are the only ones you can now purchase. Where a new workplace is created you must post a poster that shows the legal position as the old poster is now superceded by the new one you cannot get the old poster so the new poster should be posted. Hang on a minute let me find out where the hell I am Oh Yes the old V the new. Ummmmmmm is it not just as easy to get the new poster and check it is up to date (remember no need for addresses or telephone number on the new ones) and not wait the five years until you must get the new ones so is not just as easy to get the new ones instead of making changes to the old ones, oh forget it theres no pint in reopeating oneself silly all the time,I know I am in the process of changing ours so I will be all right Jack, pity about the rest sorry your honor but it did say the old ones could be used and it was thought I could ignore the revised legal requirement, Good Night Folks.