Posted By jeffrey david smith Looking for some clarification as I think I am loosing my mind... I was recently informed that there may be changes to the types and numbering of the surveys. Has anyone else heard about this and does anyone actually know what it is about?

Posted By jeffrey david smith thanks for that although I was thinking more along the lines of types 1 thru' 3. Any ideas?

Posted By Robert K Lewis The refurbishment/demolition survey gives me some concerns as there seems to be no limit on the scale of refurbishment and the draft text worked on a presumption that the ACMs will be removed. I applaud the idea of a narrative description though in order to remove any doubt in the minds of developers that an intrusive survey is needed before demolition. This is as opposed to a type 2 and expecting the contractor to look out for suspect materials which seems to be the attitude of many. Bob

Posted By Richard Hammer No longer will certain surveyors be able to get away with the 'no access so presume asbestos' routine that some always seem to have as bog standard.

Posted By gerry d I attended a roadshow organised by the HSE/ BOHS in June relating to the proposed changes. The document is to be called Asbestos: The Surveyors Guide and is not yet published as far as I`m aware. Survey types 1, 2 & 3 are to be replaced by `Management` and `Refurbishment/ Pre-demolition` surveys. Caveats are to be discouraged. Surveyors must refrain from using presumptive assessments unless there is strong evidence as to why this in necessary. The responsibility lies with both the surveyor and their client to avoid things like `no access` or `inaccessible`. The theory is to ensure all ACMs are accounted for in any given building. In reality, there will still be instances where ACMs cannot be easily reached or detected especially during `management` surveys. What the HSE are trying to do is reduce this to the lowest level possible as currently it is an easy default when conducting surveys. I agree with the comment that it may be difficult to establish when a refurbishment/ pre-dem survey is applicable. Perhaps the final publication may clarify this. I presume the comment referring to `re-survey` means `re-inspection`. There is no change to this requirement. ACMs must still be managed on an ongoing basis. Gerry

Posted By jeffrey david smith thanks all for your replies. Just glad to know that I wasn't going nuts. Keep up the good work Jeff