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scobo9  
#1 Posted : 30 April 2010 16:48:04(UTC)
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scobo9

Hi, I would appreciate feedback from members on the following 2 questions please: 1. Who has the responsibility for providing the "as built drawings" for the H&S file on completion of a construction project where there is no mention of it in the contract? Should the client arrange these from the project architect or is it the responsibility of the Principal Contractor to provide these under CDM Regs 2007? 2. Is there a requirement for building manuals AND a H&S file to be provided or should the contents of building manuals be incorporated in the H&S file? Many thanks
firesafety101  
#2 Posted : 30 April 2010 17:33:44(UTC)
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firesafety101

Always the worst part of any CDM project. CDM places a duty on the CDM-C to prepare the H&S File and hand it to the Client. All contractors are required to provide information to the CDM-C. As built drawings are part of that information. Building Manuals are not required as part of CDM but most. if not all contractors will provide their manual/s - once requested. They can be considered relevant information and required for the H&S File. The way it usually works for me is for the PC to request information throughout the duration of the project, early days and up until the end. When a contractor finishes his work on site make sure you get the info as it is difficult after they have left. That way you can keep track of everything.
Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 01 May 2010 00:41:08(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

scobo9, you need to get your contract terms sorted out to avoid this in future. CDM Regs give pointers, but nothing hard and fast if you are in dispute. I would suggest that (strictly speaking) O&M manuals are outwith CDM. You also need to be clear what your expectation of an "as built" drawing looks like. Is a marked-up copy good enough? Overly strict contract terms requesting CAD drawings from general trades building contractors are asking for the impossible. The retention sum is seldom significant enough to prevent the contractor walking away from what he always saw as an unfeasible requirement. On complex projects, keep the entire project team close to the construction phase when you can that allows the designers and technicians to keep drawings up to speed. Additionally, sometimes the CDM waits until the end of the project to request info for the File which he should have been gathering as the project progressed, and that marked-up copy of the M&E installation has been lost in the interim.
scobo9  
#4 Posted : 07 May 2010 13:15:56(UTC)
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scobo9

Chris/Ron Many thanks for your responses.
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