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Tim Eldridge  
#1 Posted : 15 April 2011 12:41:21(UTC)
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Tim Eldridge
Hi

If one of our employees is injured during a training course, and is off work for over 3 days and the training is delivered by an external company, but was carried out on our premises....

Do we have to submit a RIDDOR report for our employee, or is the responsible person the training company, and so it counts as an injury to a member of the public and their duty to report (as it happens there was no hospital visit so wouldn't be reportable by them in this scenario)?

Views welcome

Thanks
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Garfield Esq  
#2 Posted : 15 April 2011 12:44:01(UTC)
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Garfield Esq
You report.

GC
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m  
#3 Posted : 15 April 2011 12:46:07(UTC)
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m
Agree with GC, report it. It was on the premises that you are responsible for.
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Nick House  
#4 Posted : 15 April 2011 12:46:18(UTC)
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Incident happened on your premises; training program was instigated by employer (although not sure that has any relevance). Therefore, I'd suggest that it is the company's duty to report and not the training provider.
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Tim Eldridge  
#5 Posted : 15 April 2011 13:29:51(UTC)
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Tim Eldridge
Thanks all. I thought that would be the case. Bit annoying though that it means we're one RIDDOR heavier - important to a company who relies on tendering for work.
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David H  
#6 Posted : 15 April 2011 13:40:39(UTC)
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David H
Then do a thorough investigation and if it is found that the training provider is guilty of negligence, get them to state this as fact and use that statement to support your tendering in future.

David
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MB1  
#7 Posted : 15 April 2011 13:45:51(UTC)
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MB1
Hi Tim,

I agree with investigating as to what type of training results in an employee having an accident that requires him/her to be now off work?

What's the difference in being a RIDDOR heavy or an accident heavy? Statistical information doesn't always portray what has actually happened and why!
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Tim Eldridge  
#8 Posted : 15 April 2011 13:54:06(UTC)
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Tim Eldridge
Thanks MB1, but you obviously aren't in the business of tendering for work, where clients mark you on this irrespective of reasons.
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MB1  
#9 Posted : 15 April 2011 14:02:57(UTC)
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MB1
Used to be but thankfully no more disagreements in how to 'massage' figures for a few years now! :)
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djupnorth  
#10 Posted : 18 April 2011 08:43:11(UTC)
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djupnorth
Tim,

Just for confirmation. As the person on whose premises the injury occurred, Regulation 3 put the duty to report squarely with your organisation as the "Responsible Person" on whose premises the incident occurred.

Regards.

DJ
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