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Do all final exit fire escape doors need to be "fire doors"? Either FD 30 or FD 60?
I think not unless there is an escape above them? Is this correct? (I think I have read it somewhere in my deep & dark past).
Thanks
Andy
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Hi
I believe you are correct.
Doors on the way to the final exit will probably require fire resisting
Regards
SW
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Fire escape doors do not need to be fire resisting ("fire doors") unless they are at the boundry to a fire resisting compartment within a building or to outside.
Think of them as two different things
Fire doors stop the spread of fire from one area to another
Fire escape doors provide passage to a place of safety or route final exit
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Inward opening or opening in the direction of travel?
I've read somewhere that the final exit door may open inwards if the occupancy is <60 persons. Does anyone know where that is stated please and what happens if the final exit opens directly onto another escape route in that case?
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Inward opening or opening in the direction of travel?
I've read somewhere that the final exit door may open inwards if the occupancy is <60 persons. Does anyone know where that is stated please and what happens if the final exit opens directly onto another escape route in that case?
I remembered where I had seen the info!
Approved document B of the building regs. Above 60 people and the door must open in the direction of travel. Any door opening onto another escape route would need to be fire rated. A final exit would be classed and exiting to a safe area.
Andy
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Motorhead wrote:http://www.communities.gov.uk/archived/publications/planningandbuilding/buildingapproveddocumentb
Motorhead,
Thanks, of course document B.
The door I have in mind though currently opens in, but the office is being refurbed and additional staff will be relocated there which may take the total occupancy above 60 (at times). The door opens out onto the exteral pedestrian route into the site and also serves as the escape route for 1st floor staff once they have come down the external stairs. In other words, if we make the door open outwards it'll either block that route or have the potential to frequently smack people in the face as it's in constant use.
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MaxPayne.
I don't envy you on that one.
I take it that there is not the option to move the location of the exit door?
Andy
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Once the refurb in complete, (structural changes?) the fra will have to be reviewed.
Is it possible to form a lobby for the door to open into thus not affecting other people when opening in the direction of travel? This may mean bringing the door back a little.
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Alternatively to Chris's suggestion of bringing the door back a little, would it be possible to create a lobby with new outward opening doors on the inner doorframe, and maintain the original outward opening door, held open with hooks when the building is occupied?
I have worked on jobs in listed buildings in London where external doors cannot be moved into the building, so this alternative has been used
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Maxpayne,
Messyshaw has properly advised to recess the door which will over come the door interferring with other traffic , please remember the door will be required to be self closing to protect those escaping above from the products of combustion or is it flammbustion or inflammbustion !!.
Wizard:):)
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