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KATE83  
#1 Posted : 04 October 2011 07:29:40(UTC)
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KATE83

Quick question for the folk with cdm knowledge? If there is a requirement to move 1000s of tons of earth that would last more than 8 weeks - would this fall under cdm (notifiable)? It would involve diggers and a lot of trucks. Sorry if its a simple one but I need to ask? Thanks you.
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 04 October 2011 07:48:33(UTC)
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bob youel

More info please; as in agriculture, quarrying and similar areas movement of large amounts of earth are regularly undertaken but they are not classed as CDM areas because they have no proximity to a construction activity
KATE83  
#3 Posted : 04 October 2011 07:53:56(UTC)
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KATE83

Thanks Bob - I think you have given me what I need - no construction works - just a massive pile left on a site.
firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 04 October 2011 08:59:31(UTC)
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firesafety101

Sounds painful (Sorry just couldn't resist).
DNW  
#5 Posted : 04 October 2011 12:38:14(UTC)
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DNW

When you say "site" what exactly is the site. If the earth was part of a construction or demolition process then it should have been removed within the time as specified on the F10, there is flexibility there however. If a F10 was issued initially then this will need to be extended. Simplest question to answer is why has the material been excavated/stockpiled? The answer to this quetion will determine what you need to do.
SP900308  
#6 Posted : 04 October 2011 12:40:25(UTC)
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SP900308

Similarly, Is this removal in preparation for something else (site clearance)?
rockybalboa  
#7 Posted : 04 October 2011 13:06:53(UTC)
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rockybalboa

The EA might be interested too, my mate had a job where he moved a lot of earth, SEPA stopped the job as they said they were changing the way water would run off site and could potentially divert water to residential areas if it were to rain heavily / flood. Just food for thought.
Betta Spenden  
#8 Posted : 04 October 2011 17:29:25(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

You may find this Act of interest, or maybe not. Agricultural Land (Removal of Surface Soil) Act 1953
boblewis  
#9 Posted : 04 October 2011 22:23:52(UTC)
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boblewis

You will need to prove no contamination if it is to go for recycling or other disposal that is not on a hazardous waste site Bob
Ron Hunter  
#10 Posted : 05 October 2011 12:11:38(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

You could just proceed on the basis that it is Construction and Notify. You need not make any specialist appointment, CDM-C role defaults to the Client where no appointment is made. Presumably there is no "design" or Designer involvement. The work will require welfare provision, there will no doubt be various site-specific issues requiring consideration and methodology and your will need a competent contractor to be in overall charge (the Principal Contractor). If your Organisation is a "contractor" then you can also assume the role of the Principal Contractor. You're probably aware that the facility exists to Notify on-line via HSE website and that the CDM ACoP L144 is available as a free pdf from HSE website too. Appendices 2 and 3 of the ACoP (pages 101 - 107) should serve as a useful initial focus.
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