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B.Bruce  
#1 Posted : 11 April 2012 09:34:44(UTC)
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B.Bruce

All,

Just wondering if anyone had ever used/purchased this document which provides guidance on fire safety in buildings?

I am a H&S Manager for an organisation with a 16 acre manufacturing site, but we are also a landlord who own and rent out several industrial units and a few domestic properties.


Thanks
teh_boy  
#2 Posted : 11 April 2012 09:48:48(UTC)
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teh_boy

B.Bruce wrote:
All,

Just wondering if anyone had ever used/purchased this document which provides guidance on fire safety in buildings?

I am a H&S Manager for an organisation with a 16 acre manufacturing site, but we are also a landlord who own and rent out several industrial units and a few domestic properties.


Thanks


No... however what's the question...

I assume you know of the communities.gov guidance, this one is for factories, there are others.... http://www.communities.g...ons/fire/firesafetyrisk3

B.Bruce  
#3 Posted : 11 April 2012 10:14:54(UTC)
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B.Bruce

hi teh

Kinda obvoius I thought, but i'll spell it out for you............;)

Does the document provide anything of value/ is it worth purchasing?

I have used the docs at communities.gov site, just wondered if the BS provides anything worthwhile on top of this.
teh_boy  
#4 Posted : 11 April 2012 10:31:40(UTC)
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teh_boy

OK, so it was obvious, but wasn't sure if you were just after an opinion on that document or further advices....

Ah the joys of forums :)
JJ Prendergast  
#5 Posted : 11 April 2012 11:14:29(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

All parts of BS5588 have been withdrawn.

The replacement is BS9999:2008 Code of practice for fire safety in buildings.

Its 459 pages and costs £308 or £154 to non members/members of BSi

It is a pretty comprenhensive document and looks to give lots of supporting/further information that is not covered in the usual HM Government guidance.

I would think the key point are repeated in the HM Gov guidance.

Probably worth getting if your key interest is fire safety.

In my view with respect to fire safety, there is actually probably TOO much guidance available - which guidance do you follow?

RRFSO - legal requirement
Building Regs - legal requirement
HM Government practical guides
Endless British Standards
Industry specific Standards
Internal company standards
US/NFPA standards (in the oil & gas industry)
Insurance company requirements

etc etc

Less is more!!
messyshaw  
#6 Posted : 12 April 2012 17:32:27(UTC)
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messyshaw

I believe that 5588 part 12 was the best part of the whole suite of 5588 documents. If it's just guidance on the management of fire safety you are after and you already have 5588-12, I would not buy 9999 as well as you will get much of the same management stuff again.

It's a pity that BSI felt the need to combine so much of 5588 into one huge and hugely expensive volume as it's price does put many SMEs off from buying it.

Mind you, it's a great cash cow, as when they revise the document in a couple of years, ker-ching! - another lot of £300s will be coming in to the BSI coffers. What a great business to be in!



Garfield Esq  
#7 Posted : 13 April 2012 09:05:54(UTC)
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Garfield Esq

B.Bruce wrote:
All,

Just wondering if anyone had ever used/purchased this document which provides guidance on fire safety in buildings?

I am a H&S Manager for an organisation with a 16 acre manufacturing site, but we are also a landlord who own and rent out several industrial units and a few domestic properties.


Thanks



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