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During very high winds a roof sheet that was stacked on the roof gets blown off, and lands on a public footpath, no damge was done and fortunately no one was injured. Reportable under RIDDOR as a dangerous occurrance or internal near miss invetsigation
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It does not seem to meet any of the DO's listed in schedule 2, so not RIDDOR.
Can't see why you think it might be!
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Chris thanks for the reply > for the record I dont, others do !! thats why I put the question on here, as you get a good range of views from different perspectives..
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Well, can't give you a range of views here as I reckon Chris is right!
John
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As stated above, there are people (sorry.. should say 1 person, who is a health and safety professional) out there who is adement, that this is reportable as a dangerous occurrance!!
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smith6720 wrote:As stated above, there are people (sorry.. should say 1 person, who is a health and safety professional) out there who is adement, that this is reportable as a dangerous occurrance!!
Well he's wrong.
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Unless it's specifically mentioned in the schedules in the back of the RIDDOR regs it is not reportable.
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It's not the first time I've heard of this particular confusion. As A Kurdziel says, if it's not in the Schedule it's not a Dangerous Occurrence. Something which occurs and is dangerous isn't necessarily a Dangerous Occurrence as specified. This is a case of somebody applying a normal definition of a term rather than understanding that it is a legal phrase with a restricted meaning. I too have had H&S professionals tell me that the most unlikely things need reporting as Dangerous Occurrences; if anybody suggests this get him or her to show where in the schedule it is mentioned; if it's not in the schedule it's not a dangerous occurrence, no matter how dangerous it is, and even though it has occurred,
John
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jwk wrote:It's not the first time I've heard of this particular confusion. As A Kurdziel says, if it's not in the Schedule it's not a Dangerous Occurrence. Something which occurs and is dangerous isn't necessarily a Dangerous Occurrence as specified. This is a case of somebody applying a normal definition of a term rather than understanding that it is a legal phrase with a restricted meaning. I too have had H&S professionals tell me that the most unlikely things need reporting as Dangerous Occurrences; if anybody suggests this get him or her to show where in the schedule it is mentioned; if it's not in the schedule it's not a dangerous occurrence, no matter how dangerous it is, and even though it has occurred,
John
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We have had quite serious near miss type situations ( it's too embarrassing to tell you exactly what happened but...) and we did not report as they were not included in the schedule and we have had quite trivial events, where the potential to hurt someone was insignificant but we had to report it under RIDDOR.
As someone said there are problems with RIDDOR.
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How about - Yes it is a dangerous occurence and should be investigated as such and local measures put in place to prevent a recurrence. It is NOT a "Dangerous Occurence" in respect of being required to be reported under under the Reporting of Injuries, Diseases & Dangerous Occurences Regulations.
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Many thanks gents > I have completed an internal near miss investigation and made reccomendations, to hopefully ensure no repeats >
Post 9 Andrew > why did you have to report it?, if it was not listed in the schedule, sounds to me you did everything right if you conducted investigations and put something in place to prevent re-occurrance.
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smith6720 wrote:Many thanks gents > I have completed an internal near miss investigation and made reccomendations, to hopefully ensure no repeats >
Post 9 Andrew > why did you have to report it?, if it was not listed in the schedule, sounds to me you did everything right if you conducted investigations and put something in place to prevent re-occurrance.
Sorry I didn’t make myself clear. We had one serious near miss which we investigated etc but despite its serious nature we did not have to report under RIDDOR but a few weeks later we had another separate incident, which we regarded as trivial, but because of it was mentioned in the schedules, we had to report under RIDDOR.
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