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martin1  
#1 Posted : 15 October 2013 14:23:18(UTC)
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martin1

A member of staff needs to collate paperwork by hand. She / he is collating about 20 pages and due to space restrictions the individual sheets are set out in a circle around them. The 8 hour a day constant turning is causing dizzyness. I did ask for a conveyor belt but was told not to be silly.
walker  
#2 Posted : 15 October 2013 14:36:49(UTC)
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walker

Is it friday all ready?
Mr.Flibble  
#3 Posted : 15 October 2013 14:42:16(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble

Lazy Susan :P
redken  
#4 Posted : 15 October 2013 15:02:45(UTC)
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redken

I am beginning to think that Martin1 makes these up and can not wiat until Friday.
JJ Prendergast  
#5 Posted : 15 October 2013 15:04:51(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

Has 'bjc' re-joined under a different name? Friday on a Tuesday
chris42  
#6 Posted : 15 October 2013 15:08:57(UTC)
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chris42

Modern photocopiers will collate for you, if asked nicely they will also staple them together. Person no longer needed, so one less potential problem and more space in the office. ( I know you should not consider people as potential problems waiting to happen, but experience is telling me otherwise ) Alternatively tell them to close their eyes and then they will not get so dizzy.
Canopener  
#7 Posted : 15 October 2013 15:18:58(UTC)
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Canopener

Should anybody have the solution to dealing with 'dizzy staff' please let me know!
A Kurdziel  
#8 Posted : 15 October 2013 16:26:05(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

How long is this job going to last? Is it a one off ors the poor person going to be doing this until they retire?
JJ Prendergast  
#9 Posted : 15 October 2013 16:37:41(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

The person needs to stand on a platform that rotates in the opposite direction, at the same speed. Thereby counter acting the original twisting and turning that is causing the dizziness. A full PUWER assessment, DSEAR and COSHH assessment should also be completed - no reason, its just keeps a H&S bod in a job.
A Kurdziel  
#10 Posted : 15 October 2013 16:47:27(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

can't you just email the report or whatever the document is? Then instead of having to bin it they can just delete it
Ron Hunter  
#11 Posted : 15 October 2013 16:54:34(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

If you haven't got the proper facilities, get all the work done by a local printer. I'm sure this individual could be gainfully employed doing something much more valuable than this.
Clairel  
#12 Posted : 15 October 2013 18:13:16(UTC)
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Clairel

Tell them to alternate going round the circle clockwise then anti-clockwise!!! ;-)
SW  
#13 Posted : 16 October 2013 11:18:22(UTC)
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SW

Can they have a rotating table like you get in a Chinese restaurant - they just whizz that around until they get to the correct paper location / crispy beef?
walker  
#14 Posted : 16 October 2013 11:20:36(UTC)
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walker

SW wrote:
Can they have a rotating table like you get in a Chinese restaurant - they just whizz that around until they get to the correct paper location / crispy beef?
Thats what you call a lazy susan - see #2
walker  
#15 Posted : 16 October 2013 11:21:41(UTC)
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walker

I meant see #3 Edit button please!
SW  
#16 Posted : 16 October 2013 15:17:57(UTC)
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SW

Thanks walker - I did not know that - thought it was an Employee they worked with!
IanDakin  
#17 Posted : 17 October 2013 12:14:52(UTC)
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IanDakin

Dare I say, job rotation?
Graham Bullough  
#18 Posted : 17 October 2013 13:55:58(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

The task as described seems extremely tedious. If it needs to be done frequently, whether on a full or part time basis, I understand that machines designed specifically to collate paper are available. If it's an occasional task, consider making it a shared job if this is feasible. One possible advantage of this is that those involved can talk to each other as a means of reducing the tedium. The suggestion about sharing reminds me of the days before the constituent parts of the IOSH network started using e-mails to inform their members about forthcoming events. During my early years as a committee member of the excellent Manchester & North West Districts Public Services Section, printed paper information flyers had to be stuffed into envelopes and posted to some 500+ members on a monthly or sometimes two monthly basis. To save time and reduce the boredom it was the norm for several committee members to meet and do the envelope stuffing as a team effort, aided by tea/coffee and discussion alias a good natter. As an aside about tedious jobs/tasks, would any forum members care to nominate contenders for the most tedious ones? Many years ago soon after joining HSE I had a conversation along these lines with an experienced colleague, probably my second boss. He reckoned the most boring job he'd seen was that of manually placing a walnut on the top of every 'walnut whip' as it passed along a conveyor belt in a confectionery factory. As a further aside, I've just checked and found from the internet that such confections are still made and have been since 1910 - possibly a snippet of information worthy of inclusion somehow on an episode of BBC TV's "QI" (Quite Interesting)! p.s. martin1 - if the suggestion about obtaining a machine sadly results in the employee being made redundant, please don't let them know that it came from this forum! :-(
SP900308  
#19 Posted : 17 October 2013 16:06:35(UTC)
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SP900308

IS IT A CIRCULAR?
walker  
#20 Posted : 17 October 2013 16:27:04(UTC)
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walker

SP900308 wrote:
IS IT A CIRCULAR?
Like!
walker  
#21 Posted : 17 October 2013 16:29:00(UTC)
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walker

Graham, In response to your question: Its not a job, but I find some posts on this forum tedious and boring.
Hally  
#22 Posted : 17 October 2013 16:31:50(UTC)
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Hally

Bit of a roundabout way to the collate the paperwork isn't it?
Graham Bullough  
#23 Posted : 17 October 2013 16:41:27(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Some might dare to suggest that a new revolutionary (geddit?) way of collating is needed! If adopted, should it be the subject of a method statement or a system of work - or am I just getting confused about which response I'm sending to which thread! :-) Graham B ( Prospective new motto: Aspiring to excellence in mediocrity! )
SteveDClarke  
#24 Posted : 17 October 2013 17:40:35(UTC)
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SteveDClarke

Hi, Most boring job - as a printing apprentice at 15-16 folding exercise book paper for the local public school - 10 sheets, fold in half with a bone, put a cover on, stapling was for a skilled journeyman not an apprentice. This went on for several weeks at a time the pile of paper was over 6 feet high and when I'd done that they guillotined another 6 ft pile of lined paper. Also spent months and months collating receipt and invoice book. Even the printing machines were hand-fed, 10,000 run seemed to take forever. Cheers Steve
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