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Bruce Sutherland  
#1 Posted : 03 December 2013 10:35:53(UTC)
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Bruce Sutherland
I attended, if that is the correct word? a webinar yesterday and one of the subjects that was raised was an apparent increase in combined regulatory action ie HSE plus Fire plus EA plus LA.

Now I can see under specific circumstances where a joint investigation could happen for example Buncefield but does anyone have any experience of this as a routine which was what seemed to be suggested?

Comments in the presentation were also made with regard to this and FFI - in essence HSE " deputising" a fireman to provide advice. Obviously HSW gives them the power to do this but is it happening?
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Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 03 December 2013 11:31:39(UTC)
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Ron Hunter
Joint Agency initiatives are very common with respect to roadside checks but to turn up at the employer's door in such a mob-handed fashion would seem an unwarranted imposition on the wheels of industry or commerce.
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Dazzling Puddock  
#3 Posted : 03 December 2013 13:07:07(UTC)
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Dazzling Puddock
Could this be part of the "Estates Excellence" initiative that is being piloted (it may have now reached the full roll out stage) in parts of the country?
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Bruce Sutherland  
#4 Posted : 03 December 2013 14:45:56(UTC)
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Bruce Sutherland
Dazzling pray do tell more please and Ron thanks for that -but most definitely was not tanker checking that was being referred to but buildings
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Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 03 December 2013 15:27:37(UTC)
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http://www.hse.gov.uk/estatesexcellence/

not a stick then. A carrot of sorts.
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Shineon55  
#6 Posted : 03 December 2013 23:26:01(UTC)
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Shineon55
Bruce: Think it's more likely to be targeted at certain industry sectors where there is perceived to be a "problem" generally and tend to be police led with other regulators as back up. In Scotland it's been part of the police strategy for targeting "crime" and I think the main thrust is disrupting those activities which are on the margins of being legitimate eg security, waste, migrant agriculture. Might that be what they were referring to?
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bob youel  
#7 Posted : 04 December 2013 07:18:55(UTC)
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bob youel
Such combined operations are not a new phonon
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