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Birchall31628  
#1 Posted : 15 May 2014 14:39:55(UTC)
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Birchall31628

Hi, I am drawing up a risk assessment for surveying inside a lift shaft.
Any factors outside of the normal confined spaces / electrical isolation that we should consider. Would be appreciated so I can make it as comprehensive as poss? Thanks
chas  
#2 Posted : 15 May 2014 15:05:24(UTC)
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chas

Don't forget to be mindful of asbestos. I have been down shafts that are lined with it, that contain pipework lagged with it and some of it was in poor condition too. So be prepared to wear appropriate PPE. You do not say where the lift shafts are so it is worth thinking of the general working environment they are located in. I have been in shafts that had deep layers of dust on the ledges, which when analysed was found to contain a high degree of human skin particles. This was dust that had built up over the last 100 years or so as the shafts were used every day by many 100's of people. If this had been in say an old chemical plant/factory the dust could have contained toxic materials. If the shafts you are looking at are clean then these matters should not be an issue.

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#3 Posted : 15 May 2014 16:00:14(UTC)
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Birchall can you provide some extra information, is the lift still in service? If so will you be surveying the shaft on top of the lift on "inspection"? If so will you be survey the bottom floor area from the landing or from the pit? Or is there scaffolding throughout the shaft?
Birchall31628  
#4 Posted : 15 May 2014 18:14:43(UTC)
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Birchall31628

Hi the lift shaft is in service, never thought about the bottom bit then!
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#5 Posted : 15 May 2014 18:52:11(UTC)
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Can I ask why the shaft is being inspected? This is normally carried out either by the lift service contractor or the insurance company.
Depending on what the requirement is you may need scaffolding in the pit again depending of the pit depth, and a lift engineer to drive the lift on inspection mode etc etc.
More information is required.
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#6 Posted : 15 May 2014 18:56:19(UTC)
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Birchall
Please feel free to contact me by email on Sean.corcoran@healthatworkcentre.org.uk
RayRapp  
#7 Posted : 16 May 2014 12:05:56(UTC)
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RayRapp

You really need to liaise with a specialist lift contractor engineer e.g. Otis, Schindler, etc. If someone has that degree of expertise on this forum I would be surprised.

If all else fails I have a senior contact within Otis I can ask.
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#8 Posted : 16 May 2014 16:06:09(UTC)
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Rayapp, I have spoken to Birchall about his situation, I used to work for Otis and have the expertise
RayRapp  
#9 Posted : 17 May 2014 09:45:32(UTC)
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RayRapp

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Nice one :)

Ray
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