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Riddor - Failure of load bearing part
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John J  
#1 Posted : 21 August 2014 13:27:51(UTC)
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John J
Scenario

Split pin and washer come off the Anchor point for a wire rope. Rope remains in position, no loss of load but a potential for the rope to slip off the anchor point.

Is this a failure of a load bearing part?
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chris42  
#2 Posted : 21 August 2014 13:31:00(UTC)
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chris42
Don't think so, nothing actually failed did it.

Will be interesting to hear others views though.
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Steve e ashton  
#3 Posted : 21 August 2014 13:39:03(UTC)
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Steve e ashton
My understanding would be - the split pin is not a load bearing part - it is there only to retain the load bearing part. So loss of the split pin / failure to spot the absence of the split pin is a serious defect but not reportable under RIDDOR.
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Canopener  
#4 Posted : 21 August 2014 13:42:10(UTC)
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Canopener
I would be inclined to agree with Steve. so 'NO' !
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JJ Proudbody  
#5 Posted : 21 August 2014 13:50:20(UTC)
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JJ Proudbody
Agree, the split pin is a locking device, not load bearing.

How does a properly fitted (bent legged) split pin come out - provided the legs have been bent correctly?

Assume a conventional split pin? Like this http://www.ajreeves.com/132-split-pins-9253-p.asp

Been used a few times/legs bent straight again?
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johnmc  
#6 Posted : 21 August 2014 20:14:13(UTC)
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johnmc
I would also concur with the above, as it is not a load bearing part.
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HSSnail  
#7 Posted : 22 August 2014 08:32:12(UTC)
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HSSnail
Everyone agreeing about a RIDDOR posting? I must still be asleep pass the coffee!
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John J  
#8 Posted : 22 August 2014 08:41:20(UTC)
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John J
Thought I'd bring a bit of harmony to the community with something we can all agree on.

Having examined the item further the load would not have been affected (due to design and redundancy in the equipment) and their was no failure of any item.

All that said all similar hoists were taken out of use and have been checked (no issues) and a root cause analysis is being carried out.

Thanks for all the input,

John
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PIKEMAN  
#9 Posted : 22 August 2014 09:01:41(UTC)
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PIKEMAN
Amazingly no one has said "report it to be on the safe side". IMHO and considerable experience you should NEVER do this - only report when you are certain.
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