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stonecold  
#1 Posted : 05 November 2014 13:22:49(UTC)
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stonecold

Can anybody name 4 external agencies (EXLCUDING enforcement agencies) that may have an influence on fire safety in the workplace? Yes its a NEBOSH test question..I'm doing the fire cert soon as work offered me the course for free....I already have the Diploma, so surely I should know this!...I can only think of 2..insurance companies and maybe BSI...cant find the answers in my text books... I think I'm going to shoot myself..
chris42  
#2 Posted : 05 November 2014 13:32:14(UTC)
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chris42

I don't know the actual answer, but is the question worded agencies ? As the insurance company is not an agency is it does the question say " external body" But to throw a suggestion in ISO 14001 or OHSAS18001 assessment company's both will look at fire arrangements.
stonecold  
#3 Posted : 05 November 2014 13:35:04(UTC)
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stonecold

The question is worded as follows.. Excluding enforcement agencies, identify four external agencies that may have an influence on fire safety in the work place. Utilities companies? Forensics? hmmmm
jodieclark1510  
#4 Posted : 05 November 2014 13:55:30(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Insurance companies are included, local authorities as they permit building work to go ahead etc
stonecold  
#5 Posted : 05 November 2014 14:00:32(UTC)
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stonecold

Thank you....are local authorities not classed as an enforcement agency? the 2nd part of the questions asks to name 4 x enforcement agencies as well...I had included the local authorities in that part
Safety Smurf  
#6 Posted : 05 November 2014 14:03:57(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

not sure you would class it as an 'agency' but certainly another interested party would be the Landlord.
Safety Smurf  
#7 Posted : 05 November 2014 14:05:31(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

CAA Highways
MrsBlue  
#8 Posted : 05 November 2014 14:08:04(UTC)
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So from above posts we have: HSE Local Authority for building regs Insurance Company CAA Highways Landlords and my contribution: The Fire and Rescue Service
stonecold  
#9 Posted : 05 November 2014 14:10:36(UTC)
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stonecold

Thanks I also had the environmental agency as an enforcing agency. It was really just the non enforcing agencies I was struggling with... Exams in 4 weeks lol...maybe I should have started studying earlier..
David Bannister  
#10 Posted : 05 November 2014 14:29:25(UTC)
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David Bannister

Also customers, suppliers, contractors, landlord, tenant, neighbour, bank, mortgagor.
Lawlee45239  
#11 Posted : 05 November 2014 14:46:24(UTC)
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Lawlee45239

And/ or stakeholders
Safety Smurf  
#12 Posted : 05 November 2014 14:48:27(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

We all seem to be agreed on the translation of the question, anyone else here think it could have been worded better?
SBH  
#13 Posted : 05 November 2014 14:59:29(UTC)
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SBH

Sprinkler suppliers Fire alarms Fire extinguishers Water company SBH
DP  
#14 Posted : 05 November 2014 15:01:32(UTC)
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DP

Agreed Safety Smurf - the word 'agency' appear to have thrown people.
PIKEMAN  
#15 Posted : 05 November 2014 15:14:23(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

AGENCY really means organisation.................so........... NOT EA or Fire Brigade (bioth are enforcers) but include Trade bodies like the Fire Protection Association; Trade Unions; Standards bodies such as BSI; Insurance companies; Fire consultants and risk assessors; Landlords; Other occupants for multi occupancy..................and so on.
Geoff 1954  
#16 Posted : 05 November 2014 15:14:59(UTC)
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Geoff 1954

Shareholders
A Kurdziel  
#17 Posted : 05 November 2014 15:59:21(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

An ambiguously worded NEBOSH question… the very idea!
rusty 01  
#18 Posted : 05 November 2014 16:06:08(UTC)
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rusty 01

Try these few: Trade unions Trade associations Accreditation Bodies (LRQA etc. Parliament (changes to regulations) EU (as above) Clients Regards Russ
Invictus  
#19 Posted : 05 November 2014 16:18:39(UTC)
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Invictus

Crown Premises inspection Group (CPIG), they cover government building.
Safety Smurf  
#20 Posted : 05 November 2014 16:23:11(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Ooh, ooh!! Just thought of another; "The Press!!"
mssy  
#21 Posted : 05 November 2014 21:02:55(UTC)
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mssy

stonecold wrote:
Thank you....are local authorities not classed as an enforcement agency? the 2nd part of the questions asks to name 4 x enforcement agencies as well...I had included the local authorities in that part
I am not even going to attempt the first 'agencies' question, as NEBOSH need to be a bit more specific when setting questions, But as far as Enforcement agencies go, here's four: 1) Local Authority Fire Service - Most fire safety enforcement 2) HSE - Construction/demolition sites, nuclear premises, on ships under construction or undergoing repair. 3) CPIG (Crown Premises Inspection Group) - for Crown premises 4) DFRMO (Defence Fire Risk Management Organisation) for premises on defence sites - whether operated by the MOD or not
stonecold  
#22 Posted : 06 November 2014 08:59:35(UTC)
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stonecold

Thanks for all the responses, Im glad I wasn't the only person to be a little confused..:-)..After 8 years of being a safety consultant I still cant easily answer a rather simple question :/
firesafety101  
#23 Posted : 06 November 2014 09:52:45(UTC)
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firesafety101

Could it possibly be the agencies that offer fire risk assessor registers? IFE, Warrington Fire, FPA, AN Other?
John M  
#24 Posted : 06 November 2014 10:08:59(UTC)
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John M

Safety bods/Consultants - especially if they are after £. Jon
Invictus  
#25 Posted : 07 November 2014 08:31:37(UTC)
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Invictus

Fire Protection Association, these produce a lot of the documents and guidance that are in use today
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