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Is it OK/correct to use the term 'NEBOSH' after ones name to demonstrate competence after completing the General Certificate? I seem to remember it being frowned upon but cannot find reference to it in IOSH's qualifications documentation. Am I correct in my recollection, or is it now accepted? Thanks.
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Not an accepted or meaningful post-nominal. Prospective employers may frown at this on an application.
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Agree that its definitely not.
The only NEBOSH post noms im aware of is DipNEBOSH, which you can use after completing the diploma.
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Chas,
On my business card, and the sig on my e-mails, I have post nominals B.Sc. TechIOSH
On a separate line I put 'qualification NEBOSH Gen. Cert.'
John
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JohnW wrote:Chas,
On my business card, and the sig on my e-mails, I have post nominals B.Sc. TechIOSH
On a separate line I put 'qualification NEBOSH Gen. Cert.'
John Obviously none of my business what any one wished to put on their own business card, but out of intertest, Isnt the cert a bit of a low level qualification (Level 3) to declare on a business card?
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It depends on the qualifications you have I would have thought.
I put General and Fire certs on mine because I'm working through the Diploma at the minute and I have only worked in safety for a short time- starting my first permanent safety role shortly.
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Didnt mean to be dismissive of the cert. I did it myself when I started out and it is very tough!
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I had new bisiness cards done last year and removed my post nominals altogether.
I had CMIOSH and GI Fire E.
I just thought it was a bit naff and I don't need to use them.
Some people don't know what they mean anyway?
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Chas wrote:Is it OK/correct to use the term 'NEBOSH' after ones name to demonstrate competence after completing the General Certificate? I seem to remember it being frowned upon but cannot find reference to it in IOSH's qualifications documentation. Am I correct in my recollection, or is it now accepted? Thanks. https://www.nebosh.org.u...ault_faqanswers.asp?f=84I have achieved a NEBOSH Diploma. May I use designatory letters after my name? Holders of the following qualifications may use the specified designatory letters after their name: • NEBOSH National Diploma in Occupational Health and Safety (August 2004, September 2006 and February 2010 specifications) “DipNEBOSH” • NEBOSH National Diploma Part 2 in Occupational Safety and Health (September 1997, September 1999, June 2000, February 2003 specifications) "Dip2.OSH" or “DipNEBOSH” • NEBOSH National Diploma in Occupational Safety and Health (May 1988 specification) "Dip2.OSH" or “DipNEBOSH” • NEBOSH International Diploma in Occupational Health and Safety (July 2008, August 2011 specifications) “IDipNEBOSH” • NEBOSH National Diploma in Environmental Management (March 2008, September 2010 specifications) “EnvDipNEBOSH” • NEBOSH Specialist Diploma in Environmental Management (December 1992, January 2002, August 2003 specifications) "SpDipEM" or "EnvDipNEBOSH” Regards
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Not necessary. Academic snobbery.
Never bother with mine
Ian Bell
CMIOSH, 25m Swimming Cert,
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The only NEBOSH Post nominal is the DipNEBOSH.
Although being a member of IOSH, at the appropriate qualification level and approved by the Membership Committee you can use the following post-nominal:
Tech IOSH
Grad IOSH
CMIOSH
CFIOSH
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Ian Bell wrote:Not necessary. Academic snobbery.
Never bother with mine
Ian Bell
CMIOSH, 25m Swimming Cert, I disagree Ian, it is professional level - not simply academic achievement. Not suitable to use on Birthday cards etc but more than necessary w people are wanting to know more about the professional 'you'. Steve; 6' rubber brick recovery and professional pyjama float maker
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Thanks all, particularly westonphil - just what I needed. An interesting conversation awaits.
Chas...,
(no swimming cert but can hold my breath underwater for the length of a pool, does that qualify?).
Thanks again.
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stonecold wrote:Didnt mean to be dismissive of the cert. I did it myself when I started out and it is very tough! That's OK stonecold, no offense taken :o) Ian's comment about academic snobbery is nonsense. Quals on business card makes sense; my main client offers them to their contractors, and will say a TechIOSH NEBOSH Cert will charge less than CMIOSH :o)
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Ian Bell
MSc, BSc, C Eng, HNC, ONC, Swim(25m), 1st Aid, RAF Ret'd, ECB Level 1, 8 O Levels (failed Eng Lit), Cycling Proficiency, Car Groups A, G, H. Service awards: None, C&G Teaching Qual, TV Lic,
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Ian Bell wrote:Ian Bell
MSc, BSc, C Eng, HNC, ONC, Swim(25m), 1st Aid, RAF Ret'd, ECB Level 1, 8 O Levels (failed Eng Lit), Cycling Proficiency, Car Groups A, G, H. Service awards: None, C&G Teaching Qual, TV Lic, Ah, a real snob :o) Cycling Proficiency! I got my badge in 1966, even though I failed to stop at the stop sign :o))
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Funny things post-nominals, when I did not have many I used them for everything. Now that I have them for everything I don't use them!
Ray Rapp BTW WTF LOL
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I think Ray is right. When you have a some you display them when you have quite a few more you don't tend to use them.
I don't use mine - however, they do sometime come useful when having an e-mail argument with the local fire officer and you can trump his/her post nom's, touch wood so far they have always helped me win my argument with the fire service.
On another note; the PA that booked me into a hotel recently gave my post nominals on the booking form, I ended up with an upgrade to the suite - who knows could have been coincidence but this was the first time it has happened to me in many years.
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I use mine on emails & business cards, they seem to stop dead any contradictions to my point of view, i have as yet not figured out why...
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I use Tech IOSH on my business cards, agree it is pretty much an entry-level post nominal but when combined with other nominals it builds a picture of the person I think.
I may drop them on the next batch of cards but as others have mentioned they can carry some weight when involved in 'discussions', particularly with enforcing body types (ok, Tech IOSH isn't going to set the HSE quaking but at least the EA take me seriously) ;)
Alan
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Rarely I saw people put NEBOSH Certificate as Post Nominal, Even NEBOSH Diploma not so many people use it...
For my point, people should use post nominal when they think it would more weight on their credits, other than that.. keep them and just use the most important ones
SHV
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I completed NEBOSH Diploma 1 in 2005 and was entitled to us TECHSP.......now I'm entitled to use TECHIOSH which can be obtained by doing the NEBOSH General Certificate (which I did in 2003).
I don't use TECHIOSH because it seems a waste of my Diploma training and 7 grand to boot!
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As a whimsical aside, it's probably appropriate that the only membership grade for those who join the Royal Society of Arts is "fellow" and presumably allows them to use FRSA as a post-nomial. If a "member" grade existed, its holders would be understandably reluctant to use MRSA because some folk might interpret it as a medical classification and keep well clear of them! :-)
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stonecold wrote:Agree that its definitely not.
The only NEBOSH post noms im aware of is DipNEBOSH, which you can use after completing the diploma. I can use mine, which is Prof Dip (SHEM) I used this once (underneath my name, as is the correct way) when emailing someone regarding a H&S matter, the reply came back addressed to Professor......... LOL. Oh dear!
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Besides all else, NEBOSH cert is not a professional qualification.
Before anyone starts to rant, these are NEBOSH words not mine.
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walker wrote:Besides all else, NEBOSH cert is not a professional qualification.
Before anyone starts to rant, these are NEBOSH words not mine. walker, it is a VOCATIONAL qualification rather than a professional. Anyway it's a qualification as I indicate on my business card. The NEBOSH site says Quote:The National General Certificate is the most widely held health and safety qualification in the UK with over 160,000 people having gained the award since it was launched in 1989. and my certificate says it is NVQ Level 3 and NVQ is ........ National Vocational Qualification .
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JohnW wrote:walker wrote:Besides all else, NEBOSH cert is not a professional qualification.
Before anyone starts to rant, these are NEBOSH words not mine. walker, it is a VOCATIONAL qualification rather than a professional. Anyway it's a qualification as I indicate on my business card. The NEBOSH site says Quote:The National General Certificate is the most widely held health and safety qualification in the UK with over 160,000 people having gained the award since it was launched in 1989. and my certificate says it is NVQ Level 3 and NVQ is ........ National Vocational Qualification . A level 3 qualification is basically an A level, so I think hes saying its probably a bit low level for a business card...
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My business cards have
Prof Dip (SHEM) GradIOSH
I don't bother with my NEBOSH NGC 3 (with credit) ;) I doubt most would know what that means anyway.
Just to derail this thread, I'm seeing quite a few job adverts lately with the term (MIOSH), that's a new one on me.
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stonecold wrote:
A level 3 qualification is basically an A level, so I think he's saying it's probably a bit low level for a business card...
Yes, but for me I want the card to say more than B.Sc. and TechIOSH, to be something my type of customer (SME's) recognises. .
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Nikki-Napo
MIOSH is what we used to be before IOSH became Chartered. Member of the Institution of Occupational Safety and Health.
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Just looked at my business card and it says;
Buy cat food
Post birthday card
Phone the bank
....oh....sorry.... wrong side!
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Hey Super Smurf, remember me when I was the first Super Forum User? You were second as I remember?
Perhaps we should add that to our business cards ?
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FireSafety101 wrote:Hey Super Smurf, remember me when I was the first Super Forum User? You were second as I remember?
Perhaps we should add that to our business cards ?
If you advertise our super powers someone might start looking for Kryptonite!!!
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paul.skyrme wrote:I use mine on emails & business cards, they seem to stop dead any contradictions to my point of view, i have as yet not figured out why... I prefer to keep mine off my emails, etc...just lurking in wait for some poor unsuspecting soul to contradict me - Lol. Seriously, some people wear their post-noms like medals on their chest. I even worked with a chap who had - MSc MSc, presumably two worthless degrees and not just one.
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NVQ - when I did mine ages ago I was told it stood for 'Not Very Qualified' - to say I was 'miffed' was an understatement!!!
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stuie wrote:NVQ - when I did mine ages ago I was told it stood for 'Not Very Qualified' - to say I was 'miffed' was an understatement!!! Ah, :0) but who told you that, someone with more or someone with less polynomials? .
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Forum users may be delighted or otherwise to know that CFIOSH, CMIOSH and GradIOSH are included in Wikipedia's page about post-nominals in the UK at http://en.wikipedia.org/...of_post-nominal_letters_(United_Kingdom) Scroll down under the heading "Fellowship or membership of learned societies, academies or professional institutions." Unfortunately IOSH is thrice listed erroneously as an 'institute', while the wording for CFIOSH correctly includes 'Institution' but omits 'Chartered' ! This comprises a good example of why people shouldn't regard everything on the internet as being accurate. Also, if anyone knows how to get the website operator to amend the errors, it would be worth doing. Also, according to an entry way down the page, the initials RSP mean "Recognised Safety Practitioner with the International Institute of Risk and Safety Management". Those of us who were in IOSH before chartered membership status arrived will recall that the initials RSP used to mean "Registered Safety Practitioner" with IOSH. p.s. JohnW's mention of polynomials above prompted me to do an internet search. Though it transpires that polynomials are mathematical entities, I struggled to understand the explanations of them. :-(
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Graham, oh yes I have slipped up with 'polynomial'; that betrays my mathematical background, I was very fond of algebra in my young days :o)
As for editing the Wikipedia page , ANYONE can register to be an 'editor'. I have done so but have only edited biographical pages on musicians.
I'm just a mere TechIOSH so, as I'm constantly reminded on here, not sufficiently qualified to edit safety-related wiki pages ;o)
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JohnW wrote:As for editing the Wikipedia page , ANYONE can register to be an 'editor'. I have done so but have only edited biographical pages on musicians. Anyone can edit a Wikipedia page, regardless of whether one is registered or logged in as an editor or not. As long as the page isn't locked for editing, and your IP address isn't blocked, you're good to go. http://en.wikipedia.org/...ome_unregistered_editing
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Grizzly wrote:JohnW wrote:As for editing the Wikipedia page , ANYONE can register to be an 'editor'. I have done so but have only edited biographical pages on musicians. Anyone can edit a Wikipedia page, regardless of whether one is registered or logged in as an editor or not. As long as the page isn't locked for editing, and your IP address isn't blocked, you're good to go. http://en.wikipedia.org/...ome_unregistered_editing Yes but if you do put rubbish on it will get challenged a bit like this forum!
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