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Looking for a view on this please.
The business is moving from an inner city depot with parking and good transport links to an industrial unit on the outskirts of the city with little parking and no bus service. I've been asked if I would risk assess several routes which the project manager has mapped for staff parking locally and then completing their journey into work on-foot. Some of those routes are 40 minutes and cross under motorways via underpasses and through an industrial estate with high HGV movement.
The PM is also looking at options for a mini-bus service or to persuade a bus company to run a route, but I question the purpose of the risk assessment as (1) this is outside of working hours/business (2) there's probably not much we can introduce as control measures and (3) will we assume responsibility by undertaking the process or set a precedence for the rest of the organisation?
Any thoughts please?
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Why? I have never worked for a company who has risk assessed me attending work, it is up to people how they get there!
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If U mean staff coming into a permanent place of work in the morning from their home and then going home after work from that permanent place of work then employers H&S, employment duties etc. do not apply
I appreciate the employers concerns etc. but this is a HR/management issue - assist by all means. However the risk assessment process/format can be used as a tool to support all areas but it should be used under the overall risk management banner of the business as a whole and there are mini bus companies clambering for work out there so that area should not be a problem& yes the more U take on yourselves the more liability U have
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Invictus wrote:Why? I have never worked for a company who has risk assessed me attending work, it is up to people how they get there! Well I have! When an office was set up in the area to the North of Kings Cross Station, in the late '80s, the area was 'renowned' for street based prostitution. Management decided that the risk to female staff walking back to the Station area [no public bus service] was too great. [However, I'm not certain there was a formal risk assessment - just an application of Common Sense by senior management]. Therefore female staff were told to book a cab [Account set up for the purpose] if they were walking alone back from the offices after dark. The 'facility' was regularly used, especially in Winter. Was it necessary - almost definitely. Great for staff morale.
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Might be great for staff morale, but not leagally required.
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Invictus wrote:Might be great for staff morale, but not leagally required. True - but who wants to work for a company who only does the bare minimum required for their staff welfare and wellbeing? Its an appalling attitude to take Second point - going back to the original posting. Max said "The business is moving from an inner city depot with parking and good transport links to an industrial unit on the outskirts of the city with little parking and no bus service. I've been asked if I would risk assess several routes which the project manager has mapped for staff parking locally and then completing their journey into work on-foot. Some of those routes are 40 minutes and cross under motorways via underpasses and through an industrial estate with high HGV movement. " As the staff were employed elsewhere, and their ways of getting to work are changed by the relocation of the offices, perhaps there is an onus on the company to consider the effects of the change. Also - I hope the 'bosses', aren't parking at the new offices, but walking like the rest [some hope!] In the good old days of strong unions - all this would have been covered before any move is agree [including walking time payments etc etc, as staff could spend over an hour extra walking to/from work]
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No it wouldn't, walking time payments don't think so even when the unions were strong. I personally wouldn't want to work for a company who told me how to get to work.
I don't even like the fact that they produce standards that are also taken to how you behave outside work that can result in disciplinary measures
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Normally the journey to and from work is outwith the business responsabilities; However, by relocating from one area to another, with what appears to be poor parking/commuting compared to the current location i think there is a wider "business risk" issue to be addressed. So maybe a "risk assessment" is required, just not a "Health and Safety Risk Assessment". Precedents have been set ( I know of a local authority and a large utility co) for instance increased travel time and costs have resulted in either ex gratia or on going payment to cover the extra time and costs etc and also there is a risk to the business that some stff will find better offers else where - Again ,not directly "Health and Safety" but consider the effect if you lose all your fire wardens, or even a couple of fire wardens over the 6 months following the move - that is a Health and safety issue Slightly off topic but worth a think
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Lets think about this sensibly,
HASAWA 1974, section 2
General duties of employers to their employees.
(1)It shall be the duty of every employer to ensure, so far as is reasonably practicable, the health, safety and welfare at work of all his employees.
The "at work" bit really sums it up, how employees get to work isn't in the scope of HASAWA, it may however be a case for HR, change of terms and conditions etc....
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MaxPayne,
I would tell your boss the issue should be managed by HR. They can do a (non H&S) risk assessment, you could assist with your experience.
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All,
Many thanks indeed for your feedback. You've confirmed my thoughts, but it's really useful sometimes to get feedback and ideas from peers.
Thanks again.
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