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ADALE  
#1 Posted : 19 March 2016 14:40:43(UTC)
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ADALE

Hi,

a friend asked if car jacks used in commercial activities are covered by LOLER. I've just carried out a search on L113 and couldn't see it in the exclusions which backs up my initial thoughts -'yes, why wouldn't it be covered if at work?'

But I remember someone saying pump / pallet trucks weren't in their before November 2014 when the ACoP was revised so I wondered if anyone else had experience of this matter. He specifically mentioned 'bottle jack' but to me lifting equipment is lifting equipment.

I'd be happy to hear anyone else's experience - thanks in advance
Lana Safety Marshall  
#2 Posted : 19 March 2016 15:37:23(UTC)
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Lana Safety Marshall

Hi,
In my opinion I would say yes, jacks would come under LOLER requiring annual thorough test and examination. To back this up take a look at INDG 434, page 4 last bullet point. hope this helps!
ADALE  
#3 Posted : 19 March 2016 15:39:03(UTC)
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ADALE

Hi Lana,

thanks - I actually did a google search after posting this and it turns out it isn't the first time it has been asked. Thank you very much though
Lana Safety Marshall  
#4 Posted : 19 March 2016 16:13:37(UTC)
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Lana Safety Marshall

No Problem.
firesafety101  
#5 Posted : 20 March 2016 10:38:30(UTC)
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firesafety101

One of the best topic names I have ever seen.

I keep imagining car jacks lifting a very large woman. ;-)
Granlund40055  
#6 Posted : 21 March 2016 10:11:44(UTC)
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Granlund40055

There have been previous postings in 2014 re Pool car jacks.
The HSE's internal guidance for Inspectors states that jacks in use in motor vehicle repair come within LOLER, but the jack in the boot of the sales rep's car does not.

See http://www.hse.gov.uk/fo...lops/ocs/800-899/803_69/ para 22 and
http://www.hse.gov.uk/fo...s/ocs/200-299/234_11.htm para 8 which is copied below

8 The Regulations should not be applied where risks are low, for example raising someone in a barber's chair, (which, in any case, may be considered as a 'height adjustment' rather than a 'lifting operation'). Other equipment, such as a vehicle jack, which may seem similar to this example, is more likely to involve risk and LOLER should be applied.
9 Sectors will give guidance on the appropriate requirements for the main equipment in their industries. For example:
(1) experience in motor vehicle repair of the use, maintenance standards and failures of vehicle jacks indicates that the risks justify periodic thorough examination of this equipment. Engineering and Utilities Sector has advised, however, that it would be unreasonable to require thorough examination of a jack kept for emergency use in the boot of a car, for example belonging to a sales representative;
watcher  
#7 Posted : 21 March 2016 14:15:37(UTC)
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watcher

FireSafety101 wrote:
One of the best topic names I have ever seen.

I keep imagining car jacks lifting a very large woman. ;-)


Why one earth would you imagine that?
firesafety101  
#8 Posted : 21 March 2016 15:15:18(UTC)
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firesafety101

Watcher wrote:
FireSafety101 wrote:
One of the best topic names I have ever seen.

I keep imagining car jacks lifting a very large woman. ;-)


Why one earth would you imagine that?


I don't know Watcher. Anyone else would imagine a Showgirl or a "Kinky" lady/man. (See what I did there).
paul.skyrme  
#9 Posted : 21 March 2016 21:14:59(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

FireSafety101 wrote:
Watcher wrote:
FireSafety101 wrote:
One of the best topic names I have ever seen.

I keep imagining car jacks lifting a very large woman. ;-)


Why one earth would you imagine that?


I don't know Watcher. Anyone else would imagine a Showgirl or a "Kinky" lady/man. (See what I did there).



Ahh but was her kiss like cherry cola, or, was she in the Copacabanna?... ;)
firesafety101  
#10 Posted : 21 March 2016 21:30:30(UTC)
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firesafety101

paul.skyrme wrote:
FireSafety101 wrote:
Watcher wrote:
FireSafety101 wrote:
One of the best topic names I have ever seen.

I keep imagining car jacks lifting a very large woman. ;-)


Why one earth would you imagine that?


I don't know Watcher. Anyone else would imagine a Showgirl or a "Kinky" lady/man. (See what I did there).



Ahh but was her kiss like cherry cola, or, was she in the Copacabanna?... ;)


That depends on which one takes your fancy Paul. ;-)
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